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1 Estafa case bp22 on Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:35 pm

besmoko


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Sir/madam i need advice gusto ko lang po malaman kung kailangan ko po ba ng atty pag gusto ko magfile ng estafa and bp22 sa nanloko sakin binigyan nya po ako ng check na nagbounce gusto ko po makuha ang pera ko kasi pinaghirapan ko po yun. nagpunta na po ako sa CIDG para sa complaint at nakapagsend na po 2 times ng demand letter waiting nalang po kami para sa pagfile ng case kailangan ko pa po ba ng atty para magrepresent sakin or ok na ako nalang. at posible ba na mabalik nya pa pera ko mayaman naman po yun maysasakyan sadyang manloloko lang ng tao. please help me i need your advice

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2 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:38 pm

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no you don't need an attorney but that's your risk


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3 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:25 pm

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hi atty, pwede po ba ko magfile ng estafa sa taong pindalan ko ng pera dahil sa sabi nya na kikita daw ako ng 200 pesos kada biyahe kung mgfinance ako ng truck ng tig 10k napaddala ko na po ung 50k plus sa cebuana makaraan po ang isang linggo di na po bumalik ung pera ko at inabot na ng isang buwan.anu po ba pwede ko gawin para mabawi ko ugn pea kung nabgya ko sa kanya.mnagkno po kaya ang gastusin ko sa attorney kung ifile ko ng case.sna po sagutin nyo po ung query ko thanks po.

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4 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:45 am

Attentionseeker


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I'm afraid sending money using Cebuana etc as proof of receipt is not enough evidence. Lending money has to be signed by both parties as it stand as an official receipt and a contract between two parties. Your friend strategy of borrowing money is regards as fraudulent! If you have records of your agreement that he has been asking to borrow money from you apart from the receipt of money you sent then this can prosper if it is only verbal, im afraid you will have difficulties to prove this. Sad

rockpiper wrote:hi atty, pwede po ba ko magfile ng estafa sa taong pindalan ko ng pera dahil sa sabi nya na kikita daw ako ng 200 pesos kada biyahe kung mgfinance ako ng truck ng tig 10k napaddala ko na po ung 50k plus sa cebuana makaraan po ang isang linggo di na po bumalik ung pera ko at inabot na ng isang buwan.anu po ba pwede ko gawin para mabawi ko ugn pea kung nabgya ko sa kanya.mnagkno po kaya ang gastusin ko sa attorney kung ifile ko ng case.sna po sagutin nyo po ung query ko thanks po.

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5 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:07 pm

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with due respect, imo, if you named the cebuana remittance to him directly, you have proof of the transaction.

you should consider filing a small claims case. rules on sc.judiciary.gov.ph


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6 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:24 pm

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But Attorney, this case happens to me already, where I sent money to someone who borrows from me through telephone conversation 200,000 using Western Union direct to a bank account. I did not give an interest but was promised to pay me within a year. It has been more than 3 years and when I asked when would she be able to pay me back? Completely ignored me! Although I still have the receipt nothing's happens and the police said if you sent the money without any signatures from both parties, sending money through Western Union doesn't proved anything! you could easily just paid your debt to this person or asking them to do something for them. Even my own relatives cheated me with tons of tons of money! Nothing happens! pale

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7 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:59 pm

attyLLL


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that may be because you are seeking the wrong remedy by going to the police. estafa requires proof of deceit, but a civil case for collection will not require that.

imo, a Western Union transaction record will be sufficient to prove that money changed hands. other evidence such as testimony will establish why it happened and there will already be a presumption that it should be paid back


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8 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:49 am

rockpiper


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Attentionseeker wrote:I'm afraid sending money using Cebuana etc as proof of receipt is not enough evidence. Lending money has to be signed by both parties as it stand as an official receipt and a contract between two parties. Your friend strategy of borrowing money is regards as fraudulent! If you have records of your agreement that he has been asking to borrow money from you apart from the receipt of money you sent then this can prosper if it is only verbal, im afraid you will have difficulties to prove this. Sad

rockpiper wrote:hi atty, pwede po ba ko magfile ng estafa sa taong pindalan ko ng pera dahil sa sabi nya na kikita daw ako ng 200 pesos kada biyahe kung mgfinance ako ng truck ng tig 10k napaddala ko na po ung 50k plus sa cebuana makaraan po ang isang linggo di na po bumalik ung pera ko at inabot na ng isang buwan.anu po ba pwede ko gawin para mabawi ko ugn pea kung nabgya ko sa kanya.mnagkno po kaya ang gastusin ko sa attorney kung ifile ko ng case.sna po sagutin nyo po ung query ko thanks po.
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atty my destigo po ako tao na una palang po nagbigay ako sa kanya ng pera at ngkaroon kami ng transasction iyon po ba enough na evidensya na mgpaptunay na nagkaroon na kami ng transakyon.ung tao po kamsa ko sya pa mgpapatunay lahat ng transasction namin.hinhanapan ko pa sya ng resibo ng proof ng delivery reciept n galing sa company wl po sya maprovide sa akin.kung anu anu na po dahilan ang ginwa nya at txt sa akin ung po bang mga txt mesage nya pwede kung mging evidence kung sakali man ako mgfile ng case sa kanya at ESTAFA.

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9 Re: Estafa case bp22 on Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:06 pm

jhoieg


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nakautang ako sa isang tao thru my kumare. at ang requirements is to have guaranteed check at issue ka ng PDC for my monthly amort. for almost 2 years na nanghihiram ako sa knila smooth ang payments ko at nakakabayad ako on time. nakaka hiram ako ng una 100k,50k 200k ng ilang beses at nababayaran ko. kaso nitong huling utang ko sa knila nagkapalya palya na ung payments ko, may time na di ko pinadedeposit yong cheke tapos pinapalitan ko ng cash or dinedeposit ko sa account nila sa ucpb. pero tlagang dumating yong time na di na ako nakakahulog on time as in lumilipas ng ilang buwan bago ako nakakabayad/hulog ulet so yong payment ko parang napupunta nalang sa penalties nila at interest.Ang ginawa ko po nakiusap ako na kung pwede stop na muna nila ung penalties para makausad ako pero di sila pumayag .ako lang naghahanapbuhay samin wlang trabaho mr. ko at 3 anak ko . after nun nagpapadala na sila ng letter pero sa halip na cash loan ang nakalagay na utang ko dun ay purchased of construction materiALS ang nakalagay at ang utang ko na dapat ay nasa halos 100k nalang ang nilagay na amount ay halos 1M na at ang ginawa pa dineposit nila ung guarranteed check ko na nasa kanila at nilagyan ng 1million na amount eh matagal ng closed account un at alam din nila un ako mismo nag sabi sa knila kaya nga ako ng huhulog ng cash nalang sa knila at alam nilang closed account na yon last 2011 pa pero dineposit nila yong cheke this 2012 lang.Tapos ngayon nga po tinatakot ako na kakasuhan ng estafa nitong mga nakaraang buwan at kung anu anong sample ng demand letter na iba ibang tao ang nakapangalan . nakiusap ako sa knila sa kumare ko na kung pwede bigyan lang ako ng panahon para ma settle ko ang balance ko sa kania ginawan nga ako nung una ng kumare ko ng listahan nung dapat kung bayaran at lahat nung payments ko na cash. Ang sabi nya huwag ko daw intindihin ang letter ng Bus.Partner nya disregard ko daw yong amount na nakalagay sa letter at kung ano lang daw utang ko yong lang dapat ko pay pero tuloy pa din padala nang letter nila na same ang nakalagay na purchased of construction materials tapos ung amount lumalake. ginamit nila ung ibang pdc ko na nasa kanila (may time na sila nalang kasi ang nag lalagay ng amount nung una)dahil compute pa nila yong total monthly payments ko. ano po ba maganda kong gawin di naman tama yong kinokoleta nilang utang ko .. Please help nyo po ako . may construction hardware kasi silang business.Godbless



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