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1 Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:46 am

alu


Arresto Menor
hi all! ask lang po ng advise...hiwalay na po ako sa husband, almost 2 years na, meron kmi anak...naghiwalay kmi kasi nakapangasawa po ako ng ubod ng batugan, sinungaling pa at magnanakaw pa, mabisyo - barkada, drugs sugal, alak at babae. grrrrrr...within 7 years of married life, nag simula sya magloko ng ganyan pagdating ng 3rd year at mula non, puro sakit ng ulo inabot ko. syanga pala, meron din sya kerida, may 2 anak...kahit gusto ko po mag file ng annulment, nag dalawang isip po ako kasi sure po akong peperahan ako ng dating asawa, at ayaw ko po sya makita at makausap pa...
eto po question ko:
1. ilang taon po bago mapawalang bisa ng tuluyan ang kasal namin kung hindi ako mag pa annul?
2. may possibility po kasi ako at ang boyfriend ko na foreigner na magsama na sa iisang bubong, eventually magpakasal din, but since ganito nga po ang case ko, anu po ba mas maganda gawin?
3. pwede ko po ba mapalitan din ng surname ang mga anak ko? anu po way at process nito?
so far, eto po muna mga worries ko...sana ma help nyo po ako sa problem na ito

thank you po ng madami Wink

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2 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:52 pm

jd888


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Your cause is favored by jurisprudence. Pursuant to Article 376 of the Civil Code of the Philippines, no person can change his name or surname without judicial authority. Judicial proceedings must be undertaken in order to determine whether the petition is meritorious under the circumstances and a consequent grant of change of name or surname must be made.

Here is a step by step guide on all you need to know about the annulment process Philippines, just get some points and analyze things for your advantage:

BE FIRM IN YOUR DECISION. Many people may be carried away by their emotions that may lead them to decide to have an annulment. Before you ever decide to file for an annulment, make sure that it is your last resort because this can be a very long battle, plus it will also cost you A LOT. If you think that getting married is expensive, getting an annulment is more expensive because you need to hire an attorney, and at the same time a psychiatrist.

MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A VALID GROUND. There are many rules as to how you should file for an annulment. One of the most important rule is to base your decision on a certain ground for annulment. Parental consent (if the couple failed to get a parental consent during their marriage when one of them was within 18-21 years old), of unsound mind, Fraud, Force, Impotence (when one of the spouse is not capable of providing for the family), or STD.

WRITING OUT YOUR MARITAL HISTORY. This is where the role of the psychiatrist takes place. One of the requirements when filing for an annulment is to write a narrative testimony of your marriage. Make sure to give emphasis on the details like the start of the marriage, which point of the marriage did the conflict happen, why it happened, how it happened, and up to the end of your relationship. Include also the personality of your spouse.

PREPARATION AND FILING FOR THE PETITION. The petitioner (or the one who filed the annulment) must file the petition in the family court of the province, or the city where the couple resides. Even if you already reside out of the country, you can still file for a petition for annulment. The court will then issue a provisional and protective orders.

SUMMON. After the petitioner files for an annulment, the court then gives a notice to the respondent that a file for annulment has been made. The respondent must answer within 15 days

INVESTIGATION OF COLLUSION. Some courts have to make sure that there are no conspiracies between the parties

PRE-TRIAL AND TRIAL CONFERENCE. This is the stage wherein certain matters are discussed within the court whether or not the petition of annulment will be declared. At this stage, it wouldn’t even matter if the respondent didn’t appear in court. In some cases, many would prefer the absence of the respondent in order to avoid emotional contact.


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3 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:02 pm

alu


Arresto Menor
@ jd888

thanks po...complicated talaga, and no easy way out of marriage...pero hindi nyo po sinagot question ko kung ilang years po ba ako pwede mag wait para kusa na lang mapawalang bisa ang marriage ko. whay if kung sa US kmi magpakasal, may problema ba? if ever what are those?

thanks po ulit Wink

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4 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:48 pm

jd888


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A marriage does not cease to exist just because the spouses have been separated de facto for so long a time. Separation is not a ground under the law for a marriage to be declared null and void nor invalidate a valid and existing one. Thus, neither spouse can remarry without going to court praying for the annulment of their marriage or declaration of its nullity.

In your situation, being separated for only a few years does not make your marriage null and void. As such, you cannot validly remarry another unless you are able to obtain a court decision either annulling your marriage with him, declaring said marriage null and void or declaring your presumptive death. If you fail to get any of such court decisions, then your marriage with the American Guy is null and void.

Under the Family Code of the Philippines, a marriage is null and void if one or both of the parties to it are married to another. The Family Code of the Philippines provides:
“Art. 35. The following marriages shall be void from the beginning: xxx

(4) Those bigamous or polygamous marriages not failing under Article 41; xxx

“Art. 41. A marriage contracted by any person during subsistence of a previous marriage shall be null and void, unless before the celebration of the subsequent marriage, the prior spouse had been absent for four consecutive years and the spouse present has a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead. In case of disappearance where there is danger of death under the circumstances set forth in the provisions of Article 391 of the Civil Code, an absence of only two years shall be sufficient.”

Likewise, a party entering into another marriage during the existence of his/her valid marriage makes him/her liable for the crime of bigamy. Article 349 of the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines provides:

“Art. 349. Bigamy. — The penalty of prision mayor shall be imposed upon any person who shall contract a second or subsequent marriage before the former marriage has been legally dissolved, or before the absent spouse has been declared presumptively dead by means of a judgment rendered in the proper proceedings.”


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5 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:54 pm

concepab


Reclusion Perpetua
alu wrote:@ jd888

thanks po...complicated talaga, and no easy way out of marriage...pero hindi nyo po sinagot question ko kung ilang years po ba ako pwede mag wait para kusa na lang mapawalang bisa ang marriage ko. whay if kung sa US kmi magpakasal, may problema ba? if ever what are those?

thanks po ulit Wink

1. May bisa ang kasal nyo hanggang ang isa sa inyo ang sumakabilang-buhay (BUHAY not BAHAY ha) or ito ay mapapawalang bisa ng korte.
2. Kailangan mapawalang bisa ang nauna mong kasal.
3. Not possible without your husband’s approval.

Kahit sa US kayo magpa-kasal ng BF mo it will not change your status, you are still legally married to your husband in Philippines.

in fact kapag ginawa mo yun, ilalaglag mo ang sarili mo sa kaso ng bigamy.

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6 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:02 pm

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Very well said.


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7 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:06 pm

alu


Arresto Menor
@ jd888 and concepab, thanks po

pwede po paki explain lang ng masa ang dating tong part na ito?? just to make sure lang na clear ang aking pagkakaintindi dito...salamat po

"�Art. 41. A marriage contracted by any person during subsistence of a previous marriage shall be null and void, unless before the celebration of the subsequent marriage, the prior spouse had been absent for four consecutive years and the spouse present has a well-founded belief that the absent spouse was already dead. In case of disappearance where there is danger of death under the circumstances set forth in the provisions of Article 391 of the Civil Code, an absence of only two years shall be sufficient.�"

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8 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:09 pm

jd888


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This is for Presumed "Dead" only. Well, your hubby is very well alive and having a cup of cappuccino at Starbucks. ( Just making the topic Light Cool )


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9 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:33 pm

alu


Arresto Menor
ganun po?? papatayin ko na lang sya sa isip ko...haha! seriously, wala po akong balita sa kanya presently, hindi ko alam kung humihinga pa ba sya or hindi na, madami po kasing atraso yung taong yun, estapador at magnanakaw pa...wish ko lang sa sobrang bait nyang tao, eh kunin na sya ni Lord! Wink hindi talaga ako pwede mag file ng annulment kasi malalaman nya yun at masaklap nito baka pati buhay ng2 anak ko eh masira, hindi ko na sya bibigyan ng way para magkalat ng lagim sa magiging new life namin ng mga kids...nakaka sad lang...
teka nga po pla...what about pag may natanggap akong mana from parents?? maykarapatan pa ba sya makihati sa magiging properties ko?? pwede po ba yun include as conjugal proeprty or hindi na yun saklaw?

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10 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:35 pm

alu


Arresto Menor
pasensya na po, nakalimot po ako mag pasalamat sa mga nag payo...na excite ako eh, hehe Wink

thank you po!

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11 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:40 pm

raheemerick


Reclusion Perpetua
annulment process realy takes time.. thoug you have the grounds for this petitions. like what you said na your husband is batugan. drug adicted? alcoholsm.. etc..etc.. madaming pwdeng ground for your petitions but it really takes time and money. if presumptive death naman? see to it na mapatunayan mo ito. dpt sinubukan mo syang hanapin etc..etc.. hndi yung buhay na buhay at kasalukuyang tumotoma eh pinatay mo na agad sa petition mo? hehehe.. eto diskarteng malupit:) kapag ang asawa o kabiyak ay nahatulan ng pag kaka bilannggo ng humigit kumulang na 6 na taon? magandan chance yan para ma declaire ang nulity ng kasal mo:) mag nanakaw diba? eh di ipakulong mo./ hahahaha


or bka naman chika mo lng yang mga acuxations mo sa knya? bka naman atat ka lng masyado dun sa tisoy mong fafa? awww!!! anyway what ever the story is.. ?
diskarte mo yan...

goodluck..

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12 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:00 pm

alu


Arresto Menor
@ raheemerick

thanks...wish ko lang talaga sana isang malaking bangungot lang ang pagpapakasal ko sa taong ito...

you have no idea, kung anong inabot namin mag iina sa kamay ng damuhong ito, na hindi ko lubos maisip na naging asawa at ama ng mga anak ko...

Sad

at least naka move on na ako...kung noon gumagapang ako, eh, ngayon, naka tayo na ako ulit sa sariling mga paa ko...pinagpapala parin ang mga taong gumagawa ng kabutihan sa kabila ng mga lahat...Wink

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13 Re: Advise for annulment on Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:12 pm

raheemerick


Reclusion Perpetua
aww.. congrats naman maam alu:) yaan mo ilang tiis pa at panahon. di ka lng basta tatayo sa sarili mong mga paa.. nxt tym may taga karga kna din tungo sa malambot na kama na punog puno ng nag gagandahang talulut ng bulaklak na may mga tinik tinik pa:) just kip up being kind person... lahat tayo ay nakakagawa ng pag kakamli sa buhay, dahil wlang pumasok sa isang relationship or ugnayan na mag sasabing sigurado na sila na magiging masaya sila at tagumpay. madalas kung minsan hinadya na mag kamali tayo upang ating matutunan ang isang bagay sa sarili nating kaisipan. ang buhay at pag kakaron ng kabiyak o pag aasawa ay parang isang pelikula. may hapy scene at may makabagbag damdamin. may tagumpay at may tila makikipag laban hangang kamatayan:) may ilang naging masalimuot at may ilang ka kila kilabot. may ilang ma action at batuhan ng kaldero sa bintana? at may ila namang romantiko at nag haharana sa kung minsan..
kya wlang makapag sasabi ng kalagayan sa isang buhay mag asawa. hanggat hindi ito sinusubukan,. oo walng nag hangad ng kabiguan. wlang may ginusto nito. pero tayo ay tao lamang na sa bawat sandali ay nagaganp ang pag babago. sa salita at sa gawa. at maging sa pangako at hangarin. pero anot ano man.. huwag makalimot sa pag darasal. sapagkat sya ang taga tugon sa ating mga nais at kagustuhan. gawin ang obligasyon sa lumikha, at wlang sawa syang tutugon sa ating mga naisin para sa kaligayahn.
amen....


p.s.
ikaw na ang may bf na foreigner hahaha!! murder mo naman masyado yung x-juwawers mo. ilang taon kayong nag sama at nag karon ng bunga ang pag mamahalan. then ngayun gumaganyan ka? ahahaha.. ikaw na!!!Smile

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14 Re: Advise for annulment on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:31 am

alu


Arresto Menor
@ raheemerick

matagal kami mag jowa nyan...hindi ko nga alam anu nakain nya at bigla sya nagbago?? 7 years kami nagsama, ilang months lang sya naghanap ng work @.@, kunwari lang lumalabas sya, nag babanat daw ng buto...yun pla, bumabanat sa ibang pugad at nagkabunga pa! imagine, lakas loob gumawa ng kalokohan?!! wagi sya pang best kontrabida sa pelikula. Wink buti na lang mabait parents ko, may sumalo sa amin kahit papano...kaya napilitan ako mag work na lang gawa ng kahihiyan. sya nga pala, meron ako blotter ng pagnanakaw na ginawa nya sa mga magulang ko, pati nung iniwan nya yung anak nmin sa ibang tao at ipinapatubos sa akin?!! @.@ hindi na ako nagsampa ng kaso, dagdag sakit lang kasi ng ulo, sobra stress na nga inabot ko tas dagdagan ko pa? bahala na si Lord sa kanya Wink

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15 Re: Advise for annulment on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:22 am

Bitterswitchief


Arresto Menor
Im a newbie here. I seek po for legal advice bcoz my case is super complicated tlaga. Me and my husband were separated for about 6yrs po. He went to US po 2006. I admit its my mistake why we got separated. I had an affair with other guy and got pregnant. Ofcors my husband cursed me by that time. Sinong hinde db? Ang bad ko nga talaga. Anyway, he had a new girlfriend now and ofcors ako kami p din ng guy n nakabuntis saken 6yrs ago. we had two sons 3 and 1 y/o. Nakunan ako nun sa unang pinagbuntis ko kay guy. i am not proud of the mess i made. Im here to ask legal advice because me and my ex husband agreed to file an annulment for our official freedom because he and her gf was both abroad and they want to get married. Ang batas kasi s kanila hindi pwdng magsama ang hindi kasal. Kaya nginangarag ako ngaun m magfile ng annullment. We both agreed nmn. Wala naman po kaming properties n pag uusapan at kung meron man hindi nmn po kame pareho maghahabol sa kung anong meron kami. May 3 kaming anak ni ex hubby and they are under my custody. Wala nmn po balak n kasuhan ako ng dati kong asawa. Un nga po we both agreed na mag annulment na. Ano po b ang dapat kong gawin. Pano po un nsa abroad po siya at may contract sa natanungan ko po before pwd nmn po mag file ng annulment kahit abroad ang dating asawa. Ano po bang klangan documents o kasulatan ang dapat kong iproduce? Klangan po b ng affidavit from him? Pls help. Thanks.

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16 Re: Advise for annulment on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:39 am

Log_in


Arresto Menor
hi, gusto ko lng po sana humingi ng advice, my bf po ako pero kasal xa. 2009 lng cla kinasal kc mag-aabroad c bf, then habang sa abroad c bf ngkaroon ng affair ung asawa nia sa ibang lalake at nagka-anak p cla,balak po kc nmin mgpakasal pero ndi nmin alam kung anung ggwin, sana po matulungan nio ako, thanks Smile

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17 Re: Advise for annulment on Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:33 pm

attyLLL


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he has to get his marriage annulled first. what you describe might be considered symptoms of psych incapacity


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