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1 ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:32 am

reddisheLL


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hi mga attorneys,

pwede ho humingi ng payo, kasal ung partner ko for 10 years pero di na sila
nag sasama ng babae for 5 years...ayaw na sa kanya ng partner ko kasi intimidating
ung asawa...at parati silang nag-aaway....dati pa, ayaw na ng asawa niya na tumira sa bahay ng partner ko kasi di niya maiwan ang parents niya....hanggang sa lumalala na ung pag aaway nila....

alam kung walang chance ma annul kasi malaki ang kailangang pera and mahaba ang
proseso...

pwede ba kaming mag sama sa ibang country? dun kami mag papakasal kahit fake
lang para magkasama lang kami...susustentuhan pa rin ng partner ko ang mga anak nila....

pwede ba kaming habulin ng asawa kahit nasa ibang bansa kami? nag susuport naman po ung partner ko sa 2 anak nila....

mali po gagawin namin pero wala na kaming choice.......sana makatulong po kayo...

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2 whew on Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:37 am

distressedLady


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Grabe naman kayo. Sorry pero I can't help, di ko alam ang proseso pero eto lang ma advice ko sayo reddishell.....

hahabulin at magkaka problema kayo hangga't hindi maayos sa legal family yan....hahanapin at hahanapin pa rin ng mga anak ang kanilang ama and the same goes for the wife..........mag usap kayo ng partner mo at weigh things para sa ikakabuti ng lahat, peace!

tsk tsk tsk ang pag ibig naman talaga.. sana MAAYOS ang problema niyo before it gets real messyyyyy....... GOod Luck po!

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3 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:41 am

attyLLL


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if he is able to become a foreign citizen someday, then he can file for divorce if it is allowed.


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4 aw on Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:32 am

distressedLady


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If that's the case, it will probably take years and years, why don't you just let him go gurl?

I have been in your position. I will also fight for him but I asked myself, was it worth it?if you're answer is yes, then, you really need LUCK and of course - faith and help from God.... we are all sinners and deserves second chances with life and love!


Take care and keep us posted.

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5 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:13 am

Endless


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attyLLL wrote:if he is able to become a foreign citizen someday, then he can file for divorce if it is allowed.


Apply for foreign citizenship then divorce your prior marriage and remarry... is this the solution against art. 14 governing the Nationality theory? to escape from any possibility of bigamy?

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6 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:34 pm

@endless

It's a solution for people with a similar problem like yours.

sifone

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7 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:04 pm

reddisheLL


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salamat po,

concern ko lang po, pwede po ba kaming habulin ng asawa? sa UAE kami planong pumunta......

sana makahelp kayo...salamat ulet

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8 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:06 pm

reddisheLL


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kung mag ka anak po ba kami, mahihirapan po ba kami sa mga legal documents? kung sakali apelyido niya ang dalhin? kung hindi niya apelyedo, di po ba problem yon?

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9 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:14 pm

Ginber


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@reddisheLL: oo namn kaya kayaong habulin ng asawa nya.. sabi nga sa civil code natin.. and by principle of nationality law.. laws relating conduct, family, status are binding upon the citizen wherever situated.. so kahit san man kayo masusundan kayo ng asawa nya at hahabulin kayo ng batas.. isa pa hindi kayo pwede magpakasl s ibang bansa and later i-annul nya ung first marriage.. kase that would be an exact case ng bigamy.. i hope nakatulong ako sa inyo.. and good luck!!

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10 hi po on Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:21 pm

reddisheLL


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hindi ho kami magpapakasal, meron lang po kasi ako nakilala na pwede kunwaring documents na kasal kami para magkasama kami sa UAE..kasalukuyang inaasikaso na ng partner ko.....

ok lang po na habulin kami..... ask ko na lang po ang partner ko na gumawa na lang sila ng agreement ng wife niya na walang interference sa isa't isa basta may supporta lang......

matagal kasi ung process ng pag apply ng foreigner citizenship pero try din po namin yan......

salamat ho.... prepare na lang kami kung magsasampa siya na kaso, kung makukulong ho yong partner ko, pwede ko ba siyang dalawin kc diestierro ung pataw sa mga kabit, saan po siya ikukulong kung sakali? sa city ng wife niya? pwede po ba ako pumunta don at dalawin siya?

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11 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:34 pm

distressedLady


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gurl, it seems ur absolutely crazy with this man, hahahaha good luck!

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12 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:59 am

Endless


Arresto Menor
if the case of bigamy filed against him at the time he's still a filipino citizen then he would be tried in the philippines or imprisoned in the philippines. Criminal case ho ang bigamy.

Fake documents will only aggreviate such penalties I think...

kung gusto ho nyo na ndi kyo mahahabol ng previous wife nya, kailangan ho nya magapply ng foreign citizenship pra ho ndi n sya mahahabol... then after granted na ang foreign citizenship, magpa devorce na ho sya then magpakasal na kyo.

love is patience ho dba? secure first the foreign citizenship.

sa tingin ko khit wag mo na iinform yung previous wife nya or make some agreement ok lng so long as theres a support... kac pagggwa yun ng hakbang thru embassy or consul, it might be a hindrance to his petition for application of a foreign citizenship...

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13 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:59 pm

reddisheLL


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salamat endless for the information....

mukhang mahihirapan kami sa foreign citizenship pero gagawin namin yon...sige, in case makulong man siya, di pa rin ako susuko.....

susundin ko rin yong payo mo na wag magpakasal using fake documents...

pero sana masagot ung mga katanungan ko tungkol sa pagdalaw in case ma imprison ung partner ko....


salamat mga atty and endless.....

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14 hey on Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:51 am

distressedLady


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there's certain measures about the banishment or distierro

just hope that the wife will not go after you guyz

you could also wait for the divorce bill to take effect or something like that, currently, they pass this divorce bill to the congress

Laughing good luck to whatever plans you have

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15 hi on Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:17 pm

reddisheLL


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salamat sa distressedLady at sa lahat ng tumulong Like a Star @ heaven

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16 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:17 am

h2o


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hi po may case po ako ng concubinage kasi po ung partner ko po d ko alam na kinasal pala.iniwan kasi nya ang gurl kasi pinilit lang sya ng babae magpakasal so after 4 days umalis na sya papuntang abroad then marami nagsasabi na maraming lalaki ang asawa nya so si lalaki malungkot then nag meet kami sa chat po. so naging blossom ung chat friends namin nagakaroon kami relasyon sa web lang po, then si lalaki palagi nag kwento ng karanasan nya kay babae like pinakain sya ng sigarilyo sinasaktan ginawang katulong that time na nasa pinas pa si lalaki kasi probinsyano sya kaya sinamantla ng babae ang kahinaan ni lalake,then matagal sya sa ibang bansa nakapundar ng bahay si lalaki at mga ibang gamit ang problema palagi sya inaaway ng babae kasi di na sya pinagsisilbihan ni lalaki, then maraming kwento na nakipagtalik ang asawa nya sa ibang lalaki kasi nakita ng pinsan ni lalaki,dahil sa bigat ng niloloob ni lalaki at mga pasakit nagpasya ng iwan si babae kasi napuno na sobrang sama ng ugali ni babae mukang pera nagger..so dumating ang time na nagkita din kami sa haba ng pag chat namin syempre malungkot ang lalaki syempre nag kwentuhan kami ng buhay nya.pero palagi ko tinatanong sa knya kung sino ang may diperensya kung sya o ung babae den nalaman ko na lang na kasal pala sila ng dumating ang isang subpoena sa akin pero huli na ang lahat kasi nagkaanak kami pero hindi kami magkasama kasi nasa ibang bansa sya kaya tama ba na sampahan ako ng concubinage.sana po may law din na kapag masyado na under at mapag samantalang babae ei pede din idemanda..at pahabol po binenta po ni babae ang lahat ng pundar ni lalaki bahay ibang gamit wala po nakuha si lalaki kahit isa po.sana po matulungan mo po ako kung ano po ang kahihinatnat po nito salamat po at god bless po..

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17 hi on Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:30 am

distressedLady


Arresto Menor
am sorry but u should have posted a new topic so that the atty can spot it right away..

am not a lawyer but ive been researching and asking advices about concubinage case coz i had been a mistress too....


if the wife doesn't have any proof that you live together with her husband in a certain house, then case will not prosper....having a child with her husband isn't a ground for concubinage

please post a new topic solely for you ...allright?

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18 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:34 am

attyLLL


moderator
h2o, i recommend that you acquire legal counsel so you can prepare your defense. concubinage applies only when the lover lives in the conjugal home, or the husband lives with the lover or they have sex under scandalous circumstances.

you can have a little comfort that penalty for the female is only banishment from the place where the husband lives. nevertheless, you should prepare your defense.

i'm afraid the law does not allow you to have interest or assert any action in his behalf with regard to the properties of the husband. good luck.


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19 atty on Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:13 am

reddisheLL


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ask ko lang po kung ano katibay ang agreement between the wife and husband?

kapag meron na pong agreement and notarized ng abogado na wala nang pakialaman provided may sustento lang, ok na po ba to na mag sama kami ng partner ko?


panu ho atty kung mag sampa bigla ung asawa ng concubinage at hindi sinunod ung agreement? nabasa ko po kasi na ang agreement between wife and husband na notarized ng isang lawyer ay invalid.

ano ho ang laban ng partner ko? huhuuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu

tulong po ulet atty....

patanong ho ng partner ko, pwede ba siyang kasuhan ng ra9262 kahit nag bibigay siya ng sustento sa mga bata?


salamat ho, pasensiya na po mga atty.....

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20 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:20 pm

attyLLL


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the agreement is invalid but you can refer to it as a sign that the wife consented. note that this this is but a theory that has not been upheld by our supreme court.

the husband is obligated to provide support to his children and his wife. if he has done other acts which cause psychological violence then it is possible that a case of ra 9262 may be filed against him.


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21 in a relationship with a married man on Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:22 am

jalessake


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im having an affair with a married man and this has been going on for four years..although we never lived together,,we continue dating and seeing each other in some places until he got me pregnant but the child's surname is mine and i didn't declare the father's name on my child's birth certificate..he decided to leave his wife and live by himself..i visit him once in a while but i never slept in his place..his wife found out about our relationship and threatens to sue both of us saying he has evidence like my text messages to his husband and a photo of mine found in his hussband's wallet.she also said that he kne about his husband having a child with me though i denied it to her with all my might but she insisted that it's his husband child and that his husband admitted her the truth though i keep on denying it and that she'll use that too as an evidence...she said that she'll see to it that a case will be filed for both of us and we'll rot in jail..my question is were the evidences the wife had, enough to file a case to both of us and what case would that be?will it prosper in court and what case could she charge against me?thank you

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22 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:31 am

jalessake


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can the legal wife file concubinage to his husband having only the text messages of the other girl to his husband and photos of his husband and his paramour together in someplace.?

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23 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:29 pm

attyLLL


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jales, i think you can breathe easy. first, having sex and even a child with a married man, by themselves, are not criminal acts.

next, those pieces of evidence are not sufficient to establish concubinage which require that you and the husband have sex under scandalous circumstances (everyone knows about it) or you lived together.

in addition, she will have to prove that these text messages came from you. hard when it's so easy to switch SIMS if your phone is prepaid.

last, even if you were convicted of concubinage, the punishment for you would be just to keep away from the husband.

you cannot prevent her from filing a case against you, but it seems you have very good defenses. good luck.


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24 Re: ako ang pinili over the legal wife on Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:24 am

ex_gf


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reddisheLL, kung sa UAE kayo pupunta I won't suggest for you to have fake documents like marriage license. Madaling makapunta sa UAE ang kahit na sino. Kapag napuntahan kayo ng asawa ng partner mo at malaman nya ang whereabouts nyo, pde nya kayo isumbong sa CID and there will be investigations as well. If you are planning such, wag nyo gagawin yan sa middle east dahil conservative sila and they won't tolerate such acts it will lead to imprisonment and deportation to origin. At mas malaki ang kasong haharapin nyo presenting fake documents. Mahihirapan ka magkababy sa UAE with fake marriage although alam kong iniisip mong umuwi ng pinas kapag manganganak ka na. Very Happy I understand your situation but if in any case makapag file na lang ng annulment ang partner mo better and wait for the result. wag magmadali. mahirap na baka pagsisihan nyo pa pareho. Regarding sa pagdalaw sa partner mo pag nakulong sya, mukhang malabo ata un kasi you have to be at least 25kms away from him and once proven na nagkkita pa din kayo lalala lang ang kaso ng partner mo. Yun ang pagkakaintindi ko sa mga nababasa ko dito ah?! Very Happy anyway, goodluck!

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