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26 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:53 am

AWV


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Attorney tanong ko lang pu yung pung tita ng partner ko yung passport nya nung umalis sya dinagdagan ng agency ng 5 years ang edad ang taga agency eh kamag anak din nya at dahil nga pu nung binigay sa kanya ang passport nya ng agency nasa airport na pu sya kaya tumuloy na rin syang pumunta sa Japan. Tapos nung umuwi pu sya nagpagawa sya ng affidavit at nai ayos naman pu sa tamang edad ang passport nya. ngayun pu di alam ng kamag anak nya na naayus na nya ang passport nya at dahil pu ang pagkaka alam nila hindi pa tama ang passport nya kasi pu nasa kanila yung dati nyang passport. hindi alam ng agency na napa ayus na nya sa tama at legal ang passport nya. Ngayun naman pu eh bina blackmail sya ng kamag anak nya na falsification daw ang ginawa nya. totoo po bang meron silang maikakaso sa kanya? nasa abroad pu ulit ngayun ang tita ng partner ko pero tinatakot nila kaya kahit gusto umuwi di maka uwi kasi nga pu mag iimbento raw sila ng kaso para lang ma block sya sa airport. anu pu ang dapat nyang gawin? salamat pu!

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27 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:43 pm

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they can make threats and even file a complaint, but it doesn't sound like it will prosper. seems like an empty threat to me


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28 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:18 am

AWV


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tenk you pu sa reply Very Happy

attyLLL wrote:they can make threats and even file a complaint, but it doesn't sound like it will prosper. seems like an empty threat to me

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29 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:52 pm

hello po, may problema po ako sa passport ko na ipinagawa ko po nong unang umalis ako papuntang taiwan. ang problema po ay iyong year of birth ko po ay dinagdagan po noon ng agency ko ng 2 taon na hindi na tugma sa NSO certificate ko. nagamit ko na po ang passport ko. At nong umuwi po ako ay kumuha po ako ulit ng panibagong passport para sa tamang birth year ko po kasi nag apply po ulit ako papuntang taiwan at nakakuha nman po ako ng Visa ngunit nong nakarating na po ako sa taiwan ay di na po ako nabigyan ng alien residence certificate kasi po ay nalaman nila na ang aking records noong una akong pumunta ay 1970 ang birth year ko. Ngayon po ay hinihingan nila ako ng affidavit para mabigyan daw nila ako ng ARC. ano po ba ang mga kailangan,at saan/kanino po ako lalapit at dapat kong gawin para maipabago ito? sa ngayon pansamantala pinauwi muna ako ng agency ko po para iayos nga po eto. sana po matulungan nyo po ako upang makabalik po agad ako sa trabaho ko. Maraming salamat po...

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30 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:07 am

olivedayao


Arresto Menor
gud eve po.hihingi po sana ko ng advice about s passport ko n na i release ng ibng tao s dfa muka nya ginamit pero information ko nakalagay..tapos ng ako napo ang kumuha cnv nila n nakakuha nako 2 months plng naka2raan.ipinasa nila ko s nbi.naayos nman po ng nbi.hanggang s kumuha n po ako ng new passport at hiningi nila ung certificate ko s nbi na naipakita ko naman.nakaalis na po ako at nkapgtrabaho s dubai.pero ng umuwi po ako at ng renew ng passport cnv ng dfa pampanga n my record ako at hindi pa nabubura kailangan ko raw ng certificate s dfa manila.ilang beses napo ako lumuluwas ng manila para ayusin.lagi cnsabi skin na bumalik.tapos follow up tumwag daw po ako after 1 week lgi po ako ng pa follow up.ang ibinigay po s akin n # number ng old dfa.pg 2mwag ako sasavhin hindi dito dun ka 2mwag s new dfa near moa.nakancel na rin po ung inaplayan ko na trabaho s korea dhil wala p rin ako maibgay n passport.sana po matulungan nyo ko salamat po. olive dayao

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[quote="AWV"]Attorney tanong ko lang pu yung pung tita ng partner ko yung passport nya nung umalis sya dinagdagan ng agency ng 5 years ang edad ang taga agency eh kamag anak din nya at dahil nga pu nung binigay sa kanya ang passport nya ng agency nasa airport na pu sya kaya tumuloy na rin syang pumunta sa Japan. Tapos nung umuwi pu sya nagpagawa sya ng affidavit at nai ayos naman pu sa tamang edad ang passport nya. ngayun pu di alam ng kamag anak nya na naayus na nya ang passport nya at dahil pu ang pagkaka alam nila hindi pa tama ang passport nya kasi pu nasa kanila yung dati nyang passport. hindi alam ng agency na napa ayus na nya sa tama at legal ang passport nya. Ngayun naman pu eh bina blackmail sya ng kamag anak nya na falsification daw ang ginawa nya. totoo po bang meron silang maikakaso sa kanya? nasa abroad pu ulit ngayun ang tita ng partner ko pero tinatakot nila kaya kahit gusto umuwi di maka uwi kasi nga pu mag iimbento raw sila ng kaso para lang ma block sya sa airport. anu pu ang dapat nyang gawin? salamat pu!

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32 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:11 am

Tony1954


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I have a friend who is trying to correct a mistake she made when she was 17yo and used her 19yo cousins information to go abroad. This was suggested at the time by her father.

She now wants to get her own passport legally but is concerned about the other passport and possible legal consequences if caught. Is there any provision or benefit for voluntarily trying to clear this up now? Is it possible to pay a fine in order to do this? She says she went abroad twice without any trouble from other countries and had no Immigrations problems there.

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33 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:24 am

Attentionseeker


Prision Correccional
This depends how many years you have committed this falsification as it has statue of limitations.

I learned something from one of our kind Attorney member†hlslawph†from this forum regarding falsification. According to him.†

"You can still be prosecuted for your past crime of falsification however, the crime may have already prescribed. Falsification prescribes in 10 years. If it has already prescribed you can no longer be charged. If it has not yet prescribed but you were a minor at that time, then you can avail of the benefits of RA9344 and there is a very high probability you will not be prosecuted."

So if the said falsification happens more than 10 years and she was minor at the time, she will not be prosecuted! Wink



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34 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:47 pm

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i think she'll be able to get a passport; it's her cousin who will have problems because someone else has already used her identity.


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35 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:11 pm

keis


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ask ko lang po if pwede ako magfile na case kasi po yung kaaway ko po.. nalaman ko na yung passport nya ay baklas.. gamit nya yung mga documents ng hipag nya.. pwede kaya ako manghimasok sa usaping ito.. dahil alam na alm ko na baklas yung passport

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36 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:33 pm

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you can make a report to the DFA, but i don't think you can actually file a case unless you can present the passport


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37 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:07 am

keis


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thanks a lot



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38 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:34 pm

Attentionseeker


Prision Correccional
kahit sino nag iiba ng name sa FB di sapat na ebidensya! saka kaaway ka lalabas na naninira ka lang! at ano naman ang purpose mo para gawin ito? para gumanti? alam mo bang walang idudulot na mabuti sa tao ang manira ng buhay? ikasasaya mo ba ito? ang mga taong kumukuha ng passport ay nagbabaka sakaling makakakuha ng trabaho sa abroad upang maka asenso sila at maka tulong sa pamilya! lalabas na masama ang layunin mo dito dahil maninira ka lang ng buhay ng tao! may karma ang ganitong mga gawain!

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39 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:36 pm

Attentionseeker


Prision Correccional
Ano mang galit sa kapwa ipag pasa Diyos na lamang at ng hindi ka balikan nito!

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40 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:52 pm

keis


Arresto Mayor
sila ang nauna po... Smile

wala ako ginagawa sa kanilang masama.. pero inabangan ako at hinampas ngbote..

wala akong idea kung bkit nya yun ginawa...

iniisip ko nga na may nagpapangap na ako.. para takutin sya... hindi ko tinotolerate yung gawain nila dahil mali.. pero nanahimik ako..


tapos ngayon papasalubungan ako ng hampas ngbote??? eh ginulo nila buhay ko sa panghihiya sakin sa kalsada..

anyway may knya knya taung prerogative sa buhay... Smile

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41 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:37 am

Attentionseeker


Prision Correccional
Oh! well hindi naman tama yan! bakit di kasuhan ng Physical injury? tapos kapag hndi sila nakipag areglo sabihin mong i expose mo ang systema nila dahil kapag wala silang warning hindi sila magtatanda! pero kung irereport mo naman sila ng walang babala, malaking perwisyo ang gagawin mo isipin mo na lang meron bang pamilya itong mga taong ito? ano ang mangyayari kapag ginawa mo ang bagay na ito? di ka ba makukunsensya? ipaunawa mo sa kanila na hindi tama ang ginawa nila sa iyo at lahat ay my balik at karma! siguro naman meron pa silang kunsensya na himingi ng tawad sa iyo!

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42 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:55 pm

keis


Arresto Mayor
wala po ako kasalanan sa kanila.. opo on the way na ang kaso kong physical injury.. ngayon yung babaeng nghampas sa akin.. alleging pa sya na may relasyon kami ng kalive in... sobrang pangdudurog sa pag katao ko ginagawa nya.. kaya gusto ko gumanti hindi ng brasuhan.. kundi gumanti sa legal na paraan..

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43 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:09 pm

elle_beauty


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Atty nagfile na ko ng complaint sa nbi about sa pamemeke ng passport ng asawa ko para makatakas sa kasong bigamy na isinampa ko sa kanya at inimbistigahan na po ng nbi, umamin na rin yung mga kamag anak nung asawa ko doon sa nbi na nameke nga asawa ko ng dokumento.sumulat na rin ang nbi sa embassy. pero sino po ba ang magffile nung violation ng anti passport act sa korte? ako po ba o nbi na? para mapaancel na yung passport na gamit niya.



naguguluhan na po kasi ko, sabi kasi sa dfa, hindi daw sila basta nagccancel dapat daw may court order, sabi naman sa nbi dapat daw dun ako humingi ng court order sa fiscal na may hawak ng bigamy case ko, ilagay ko lang yung alias nga na ginamit niya, tinanong ko naman yung fiscal na humahawak ng kaso ko para magkaroon ng court order eh ayun sa fiscal hindi daw dun kukunin yun kasi yung bigamy na kaso lang ang sakop nila, dapat daw magfile ako ng panibagong kaso sa pasay, yung violation nga sa anti passport act, eh paano ako magffile eh wala naman ako kopya nung bagong passport, sabi kasi sa dfa hindi daw sila nagrerelease ng copy ng passport, pero ang nbi meron na po copy, kailangan ko pa ba magfile ng kaso ko or hahayaan ko na lang yung nbi?

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44 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:02 am

AWV


Reclusion Perpetua
Well! ikaw ang nag file ikaw lang ang dapat umasikaso nyan! dahil ang DFA hindi talaga sila nag rerelease ng copies unless wanted at may court order. Ang mga overseas workers ay protectado ng DFA. kung wala kang copy wala kang evidence pero kapag kinailangan ng asawa mong mag renew ng NBI doon lang mabubuklat ang kaso nya sa fake passport at bigamy case na file mo sa kanya. For the meantime hangga't wala sya sa bansa at walang warrant of arrest or court order na makikita ang Philippine Embassy ay walang patutunguhan ang kaso mo. so malamang maghintay at umasa ka na lang sa pag uwi nya! ngunit after 10 years mawawalan din ng saysay ang falsification nya ng passport dahil may 10 years statue of limitation yan! At ang case na isinampa mo sa kanya pagtuntong na lang nya ulit sa Pinas saka pa lang ito mabibigyan ng attention. Unless may pera ka na pang push sa kaso walang mangyayari sa yo kung wala kang perang pantustos sa isinampa mong kaso.

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45 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:25 pm

elle_beauty


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AWV wrote:Well! ikaw ang nag file ikaw lang ang dapat umasikaso nyan! dahil ang DFA hindi talaga sila nag rerelease ng copies unless wanted at may court order. Ang mga overseas workers ay protectado ng DFA. kung wala kang copy wala kang evidence pero kapag kinailangan ng asawa mong mag renew ng NBI doon lang mabubuklat ang kaso nya sa fake passport at bigamy case na file mo sa kanya. For the meantime hangga't wala sya sa bansa at walang warrant of arrest or court order na makikita ang Philippine Embassy ay walang patutunguhan ang kaso mo. so malamang maghintay at umasa ka na lang sa pag uwi nya! ngunit after 10 years mawawalan din ng saysay ang falsification nya ng passport dahil may 10 years statue of limitation yan! At ang case na isinampa mo sa kanya pagtuntong na lang nya ulit sa Pinas saka pa lang ito mabibigyan ng attention. Unless may pera ka na pang push sa kaso walang mangyayari sa yo kung wala kang perang pantustos sa isinampa mong kaso.

ibig mo ba sabihin ay walang saysay ang pag iimbestiga ng nbi? *note ko lang na meron siyang warrant of arrest sa bigamy. at hindi rin siya overseas worker.. tumakas lang siya.. through sponsorship ang pag alis niya, nagpakasal siya uli sa isang foreign citizen gamit ang pekeng pangalan.. kaya apat na ang kasal niya na nakarehistro sa nso, pangatlo ang sa akin,pati ba yun ay poprotektahan ng dfa?

Para saan at kanino po ang pera na kakailanganin ko sino-sino o ano ano po ba ang mga dapat ko pa bayaran at magkano?

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46 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:12 am

AWV


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[quote="elle_beauty"]
AWV wrote:
ibig mo ba sabihin ay walang saysay ang pag iimbestiga ng nbi? *note ko lang na meron siyang warrant of arrest sa bigamy. at hindi rin siya overseas worker.. tumakas lang siya.. through sponsorship ang pag alis niya, nagpakasal siya uli sa isang foreign citizen gamit ang pekeng pangalan.. kaya apat na ang kasal niya na nakarehistro sa nso, pangatlo ang sa akin,pati ba yun ay poprotektahan ng dfa?

Para saan at kanino po ang pera na kakailanganin ko sino-sino o ano ano po ba ang mga dapat ko pa bayaran at magkano?

Tulad ng sinabi mo wala kang copy ng fake passport nya! at kung nagpakasal sya sa foreigner at hindi bumalik sa Pinas within 10 year mawawalan ng saysay ang falsification of public documents case nya! at kung wala naman sa 3 asawa na makakapunta kung nasaang bansa sya hindi lahat ay pinaniniwalaan ng immigration control unless isa syang killer or terrorist at may mabigat na kaso laban sa kanya. Falsification at bigamy? I doubt na mag prosper dahil wala sya sa bansa. Di ka na nga pinansin sa DFA eh! kung nasa Pinas sya baka sakali pa! Ang pera na kinakailangan mo eh pang follow up sa kaso dahil hindi naman libre ang filing ng case ah! at ang pambayad mo sa abogado kung talagang gusto mong umurong ang kaso. Parang di mo naman kilala ang takbo ng pulitika sa atin wala kang pera? suma isantabi ka! pero kung me pera ka eh di habulin mo! mahina na dyan ang 500K. Although bigamy is a public offense pero di naman nya gamit ang real name nya nung umalis sya! hintayin mo na lang na magprocess sya ulit ng documents dyan sa Pinas dahil ang Embassy sa abroad ay hindi na nag iisue ng mga passport na hindi galing direct sa Pilipinas. kapag mag expire na ang passport nya kung hawak na ng NBI ang kaso sila na ang makikipag ugnayan sa DFA.

Unless itapon nya ang passport nya kunwari nawala at mag apply ng assylum seeker petition. Ito ang isang halimbawa at sistema sa UK na kapag walang passport at idineklara nya na nasa panganib ang buhay nya kung uuwi sya sa bansa nya, maaring mabigyan sya ng passport sa UK pero matagal din at maraming taon din ang process nito! malamang ganun din ang sistema sa ibang bansa lalo na at nakapag asawa pala sya ng foreigner. Ito na ang magiging daan ng legality nya sa ibang bansa.

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47 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:55 am

elle_beauty


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thanks for your reply



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48 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 am

AWV


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I just used UK as one of the example! wherever your husband went to, there are lots of ways to stay and live in another country, that's why we have the so called illegal immigrants!
If that's what you believed in our law that you can do things without spending any penny then you're so naive!, it's all up to you!
so far the reason you are here asking questions is because you haven't got any succesful result with your case yet, have you?

Just listen to this story, one of my partner's Auntie lives in the US and her son was killed in Philippines and the case was forgotten! Why? her relatives does not help and cooperate unless she give them lots of money! She can't come home and she would rather send the money than buy herself a ticket to go back. Simply because she also has children in US and in US if you don't have adult to leave your children with, is not allowed to go away without them. Her kids are attending school and she cannot afford to pay for return tickets for all of them! So she can't do anything.
Her family back in Philippines pretends they are making an effort with the case but turns out they weren't at all they are just spending her money, so in the end its all about money! She was told they had to pay NBI etc to follow up on the case... Nothing happens so far so she just gave up! Why nothing happen with the case? The killers are very influential, they are big time drug dealers! So you better be careful being so tough, If your husband is married to a foreigner, just be careful its kind of risky for you! people has mentality of getting rid of what causes the problem! What a Face

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49 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:39 pm

elle_beauty


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AWV wrote:I just used UK as one of the example! wherever your husband went to, there are lots of ways to stay and live in another country, that's why we have the so called illegal immigrants!
If that's what you believed in our law that you can do things without spending any penny then you're so naive!, it's all up to you!
so far the reason you are here asking questions is because you haven't got any succesful result with your case yet, have you?

Just listen to this story, one of my partner's Auntie lives in the US and her son was killed in Philippines and the case was forgotten! Why? her relatives does not help and cooperate unless she give them lots of money! She can't come home and she would rather send the money than buy herself a ticket to go back. Simply because she also has children in US and in US if you don't have adult to leave your children with, is not allowed to go away without them. Her kids are attending school and she cannot afford to pay for return tickets for all of them! So she can't do anything.
Her family back in Philippines pretends they are making an effort with the case but turns out they weren't at all they are just spending her money, so in the end its all about money! She was told they had to pay NBI etc to follow up on the case... Nothing happens so far so she just gave up! Why nothing happen with the case? The killers are very influential, they are big time drug dealers! So you better be careful being so tough, If your husband is married to a foreigner, just be careful its kind of risky for you! people has mentality of getting rid of what causes the problem! What a Face


the reason why I am asking questions here is not because I haven't got any succesful result with my case. If this site isn't helping my case I will not post here anymore. I'm posting here because I just want to know from attyLLL the proper procedures in filing violation of the anti passport act.thanks for your feedback anyway.

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50 Re: falsification of passport docs. on Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:09 pm

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you should convince the nbi to file the case


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