51 Re: training bond agreement on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:26 pm
52 Re: training bond agreement on Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:47 pm
better stock market performance
higher purchasing capacity of ordinary Filipinos
better standard of living
Also, I believe that
Well taken cared employees
quality products & services
Well paid employees
I also wonder where did you get such negativism?
It may be small but a journey of a thousand step begins with a single step
56 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:05 am
BTW, what happen to your meeting yesterday? I'm hoping you would be bringing good news?
57 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:47 am
59 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:32 pm
Most common problem of employers are poor performance and high turn-over
According to CCAP, HR department should have a genuine interest in the employees welfare
What I did, all rank and files starts at above minimum wage, gave financial management seminar, helped those whose chose to invest, and urged union to availed of the DOLE's livelihood program and assisted them in formulating the program
Problem in salaries and benefits: Solved
Problem in performance and turn over: Solved
Interest in welfare of employees: Done extra mile since I also was able to provide scholarship grant for my employees children. And don't worry, in thinking for my employees' welfare, it is planned every in such a way that working conditions, salaries and benefits, recreational and team-building activities, CSR, family welfare and spiritual activities are taken into consideration
SO don't worry mayouno, I know my game plan very well that infact, just three years after I assumed my post as an HR, our company was awarded "Employer of the Year" by PMAP.
If you would still presume I'm a a bad HR, I would really believe you are the most negative person I've met in my entire life..
62 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:02 pm
Oh and by the way.. your presence in meetings is appreciated.. you are after all is just one of the participants... lolssss kudos to your kind... you still have a long way to go HR... I'm just right above and will always look at your kind as climbers in the game. Papunta ka lang ilang beses na akong nagpabalik balik... 😆😆😆
63 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:53 pm
As you have said, I'm still going a long way so expect I'd be helping more people in a direct way where they and their families can see and feel the impact
65 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:34 pm
Why am I a hindrance to change where in fact, I am taking good care of my employees? Would you prefer that I tell my employees to go to the streets, protest, condemn those corrupt officials and wait until these people change rather than enjoy the good things the government can offer?
Also, my other colleagues in HR are doing what I am doing because they have seen how happy and grateful my people are.
I really can't imagine myself being in your shoes. For so long, you are fighting for change which until now doesn't have an impact.
You know what, if we were friends, I'd make something special for you each day until you see that the world is such a wonderful place despite all the evil and the suffering.
68 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:31 pm
Naku nakalaban mo na naman si HR adviser.
Sya din kaya gusto nya din lumagay sa shoes mo?
I wonder if gusto nya rin.
Madami akong kilala na ganyang HR din, nagmumukhang anghel sa likod ng mga pangil ng demonyo.
Palibhasa nga Psycology graduate daw sila kaya daw nila pasunorin ang mga tao.
Tapos papatayin nila demokrasya?
Super hero na sya kung ganun.
70 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:42 pm
In summary, training bond ay isang halimbawa ng ONE SIDED CONTRACT, Ibig sbihin contrata na panig lamang sa iisang side o ang employer.
Ginagamit eto ng mga employer para makapang gancho sa maayos na paraan, ksi dto sky is the limit pag nag determine ng amount na babayran ng employee pag nagkalas sa bond.
HALIMBAWA, Buong training cost ay 50k only, ilalalgay ni employer 500k ang danyos na bayaran daw ni employee.
Namatay na ang mga bayani, pinatay nila ulit ng ilang beses.
Kasama sa kalayaan na pinagkaluob sa atin na palayain tyo sa manggagancho.
72 Re: training bond agreement on Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:35 pm
Here we go again:
Even if employers write 1,000,000 in the contract, if no training was given, it cannot claim against an employee.
If the company has given a training and employee resigns, it cannot also claim bond directly. It has to go to court prove that it has spent that amount. Plus whatever the amount granted by the court, it is not the final amount paid by employee because the amount has to be pro-rated minus the months or years serve.
Employees just have to know their right that employers cannot claim bonds without going in court. And if they insist on their right, I'm sure no sane employer would go after the bond because it is legal expense would be higher than the paid bond
73 Re: training bond agreement on Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:20 am
That's the only money I am expecting for this Christmas and I am so disappointed because upon my resignation they told me that I would still get some certain amount (exit interview). If only I knew that this would happen, I didn't resign even if it seemed that I'm dying while I'm working because of illnesses.
Nevertheless, I couldn't change what happened. I will just stop asking on my claims. 'Cause I believe that my employer has direct contact with government agencies such as DOLE, NLRC or even in court. "Mahirap basagin ang isang diyamante, diyamante lang din ang makakabasag nito". Kaysa masira pa ang employment record ko at makasuhan, tatahimik nalang ako, kahit na alam ko na nasa tama ako. Besides, wala naman akong pera panlakad sa mga papel papel na 'yan.
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74 Re: training bond agreement on Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:38 am
75 Re: training bond agreement on Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:32 am
Alim Zurcaled wrote:may tanong lang po ako tungkol sa training bond sa mga BPO companies. bakit nga po kailangan bayaran ng empleyado yun pagtraining sa kanya ng kung pano nya gagawin ng tama ang trabaho nya. di ba lahat naman dumadaan sa training period bago isalang sa actual na trabaho? sa dati kong trabaho (ibang industry), ang alam kong binibigyan ng bond e yun mga pinapag aral ng company ng karagdagang kaalaman na magagamit ng empleyado para sa career advancement nya kahit wala na sya sa kumpanya. kadalasan may bond yun mga pinapadala sa training abroad or yun pinag aaral ng additional programming language para sa mga IT or yun bigyan ka ng six sigma training, yun mga ganun example. pero yun tuturuan ka kung pano mo gawin yun expected na trabaho mo, dapat lang na kasama na yun sa pag hire sa iyo ng kumpanya. lalo na sa call center ang dami daming mga applications or tools na pinapagamit, at ibang ibang mga processes or procedures na dapat tandaan. di ba natural lang naman na ituro lahat yun sa empleyado bago sya isalang sa pagtanggap ng tawag ng mga customers?
You're right, and that's the correct procedure. Only (usually) additional or external training plus travel is covered by any bond.
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