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1 terminated without notice on Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:49 pm

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
sir i was terminated today without notice. no memo, no 30 days allowance to find work, makaka kuha lang ako ng 6k+yung sinahod ko this week.

grounds ko daw was yung late at absences.

should i seek help na po ba sa DOLE?

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2 Re: terminated without notice on Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:22 am

alexisbantilan


Reclusion Perpetua
Of course, you have to file illegal dismissal.
Were you given Notice to explain and explain your side?
Why were you terminated?Can you make details of your tardiness records?

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3 Re: terminated without notice on Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:43 am

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
alexisbantilan wrote:Of course, you have to file illegal dismissal.
Were you given Notice to explain and explain your side?
Why were you terminated?Can you make details of your tardiness records?

to make it short sir i was suspended for a maximum of 3 suspension. per suspension 5 working days ang suspension ko. THOSE suspension po eh sinabi lang saken. there's no proper memo about it. then on thursday, sinabi saken ng admin ng office na pinapatawag ako ng amo namin on friday (which is yesterday)

dun lang ako sinabihan na i am fired na po. although i was pretty aware of the fact na dapat may time allowance for me to find work bago ako alisin sa work. wala pong separtion pay na ibbigay. kasi ang gusto mangyari ng amo ko babayaran nya lang yung sinahod ko nung 1st 15days ko sa office then 2nd week ng feb kahit hindi na ako papasok babayaran nya ng buo. yung first 15 may bawas pa rin yun dahil reoccuring ang late at absences ko.

medyo nagulat ako kasi biglaan. when i ask bakit ako hindi sinabihan na matatangal na ako, ang sabi saken " hindi pa ba sapat yung 3 suspensions na binigay ko to sayo? "

btw sir the reason i got sacked off the job was due to my frequent late and absences.

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4 Re: terminated without notice on Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:54 am

alexisbantilan


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IaNLaO wrote:
alexisbantilan wrote:Of course, you have to file illegal dismissal.
Were you given Notice to explain and explain your side?
Why were you terminated?Can you make details of your tardiness records?

to make it short sir i was suspended for a maximum of 3 suspension. per suspension 5 working days ang suspension ko. THOSE suspension po eh sinabi lang saken. there's no proper memo about it. then on thursday, sinabi saken ng admin ng office na pinapatawag ako ng amo namin on friday (which is yesterday)

dun lang ako sinabihan na i am fired na po. although i was pretty aware of the fact na dapat may time allowance for me to find work bago ako alisin sa work. wala pong separtion pay na ibbigay. kasi ang gusto mangyari ng amo ko babayaran nya lang yung sinahod ko nung 1st 15days ko sa office then 2nd week ng feb kahit hindi na ako papasok babayaran nya ng buo. yung first 15 may bawas pa rin yun dahil reoccuring ang late at absences ko.

medyo nagulat ako kasi biglaan. when i ask bakit ako hindi sinabihan na matatangal na ako, ang sabi saken " hindi pa ba sapat yung 3 suspensions na binigay ko to sayo? "

btw sir the reason i got sacked off the job was due to my frequent late and absences.

File illegal dismissal.
No due process of law.

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5 Re: terminated without notice on Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:05 pm

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
alexisbantilan wrote:
IaNLaO wrote:
alexisbantilan wrote:Of course, you have to file illegal dismissal.
Were you given Notice to explain and explain your side?
Why were you terminated?Can you make details of your tardiness records?

to make it short sir i was suspended for a maximum of 3 suspension. per suspension 5 working days ang suspension ko. THOSE suspension po eh sinabi lang saken. there's no proper memo about it. then on thursday, sinabi saken ng admin ng office na pinapatawag ako ng amo namin on friday (which is yesterday)

dun lang ako sinabihan na i am fired na po. although i was pretty aware of the fact na dapat may time allowance for me to find work bago ako alisin sa work. wala pong separtion pay na ibbigay. kasi ang gusto mangyari ng amo ko babayaran nya lang yung sinahod ko nung 1st 15days ko sa office then 2nd week ng feb kahit hindi na ako papasok babayaran nya ng buo. yung first 15 may bawas pa rin yun dahil reoccuring ang late at absences ko.

medyo nagulat ako kasi biglaan. when i ask bakit ako hindi sinabihan na matatangal na ako, ang sabi saken " hindi pa ba sapat yung 3 suspensions na binigay ko to sayo? "

btw sir the reason i got sacked off the job was due to my frequent late and absences.

File illegal dismissal.
No due process of law.

sir what exactly happens when i FILE this case? should it be in DOLE po na?

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6 Re: terminated without notice on Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:02 am

council


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IaNLaO wrote:although i was pretty aware of the fact na dapat may time allowance for me to find work bago ako alisin sa work. wala pong separtion pay na ibbigay. kasi ang gusto mangyari ng amo ko babayaran nya lang yung sinahod ko nung 1st 15days ko sa office then 2nd week ng feb kahit hindi na ako papasok babayaran nya ng buo. yung first 15 may bawas pa rin yun dahil reoccuring ang late at absences ko.

medyo nagulat ako kasi biglaan. when i ask bakit ako hindi sinabihan na matatangal na ako, ang sabi saken " hindi pa ba sapat yung 3 suspensions na binigay ko to sayo? "

While due process may not have been observed fully, as you have already mentioned/admitted that you were really suspended for your absences/tardiness, you might be entitled only to additional damages of around 30k.

But in reality, there is no such time allowance to find work, especially for negligence at work. If you think of it - assuming you be given a final warning or a 30-day suspension before final termination on the next occurrence, the company has no assurance that you won't be late or absent (unauthorized) again.

Similarly, you don't usually give a second chance (or "time allowance") to an employee who steals from the company or from a co-employee because he might just do it again.

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7 Re: terminated without notice on Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:45 am

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
council wrote:
IaNLaO wrote:although i was pretty aware of the fact na dapat may time allowance for me to find work bago ako alisin sa work. wala pong separtion pay na ibbigay. kasi ang gusto mangyari ng amo ko babayaran nya lang yung sinahod ko nung 1st 15days ko sa office then 2nd week ng feb kahit hindi na ako papasok babayaran nya ng buo. yung first 15 may bawas pa rin yun dahil reoccuring ang late at absences ko.

medyo nagulat ako kasi biglaan. when i ask bakit ako hindi sinabihan na matatangal na ako, ang sabi saken " hindi pa ba sapat yung 3 suspensions na binigay ko to sayo? "

While due process may not have been observed fully, as you have already mentioned/admitted that you were really suspended for your absences/tardiness, you might be entitled only to additional damages of around 30k.

But in reality, there is no such time allowance to find work, especially for negligence at work. If you think of it - assuming you be given a final warning or a 30-day suspension before final termination on the next occurrence, the company has no assurance that you won't be late or absent (unauthorized) again.

Similarly, you don't usually give a second chance (or "time allowance") to an employee who steals from the company or from a co-employee because he might just do it again.

so are you implying sir na ako ang nasa mali?

wala pong 30day suspension na nangyari. so ibig po sabihin nun kahit walang memo (or written agreement) eh possible pa rin akong tangalin?

BTW hearing impared din po pala ako. relying on hearing aids.

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8 Re: terminated without notice on Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:22 am

council


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IaNLaO wrote:so are you implying sir na ako ang nasa mali?

wala pong 30day suspension na nangyari. so ibig po sabihin nun kahit walang memo (or written agreement) eh possible pa rin akong tangalin?

BTW hearing impared din po pala ako. relying on hearing aids.

I did not say you were given a 30-day suspension, I said "assuming" you were given...

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9 Re: terminated without notice on Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:54 pm

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
council wrote:
IaNLaO wrote:so are you implying sir na ako ang nasa mali?

wala pong 30day suspension na nangyari. so ibig po sabihin nun kahit walang memo (or written agreement) eh possible pa rin akong tangalin?

BTW hearing impared din po pala ako. relying on hearing aids.

I did not say you were given a 30-day suspension, I said "assuming" you were given...


like i said sir i didnt get any 30 day suspension. so i want to know if may laban ako if dadalhin ko sa dole ang case ko sir.

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10 Re: terminated without notice on Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:20 pm

council


Reclusion Perpetua
IaNLaO wrote:
council wrote:
IaNLaO wrote:so are you implying sir na ako ang nasa mali?

wala pong 30day suspension na nangyari. so ibig po sabihin nun kahit walang memo (or written agreement) eh possible pa rin akong tangalin?

BTW hearing impared din po pala ako. relying on hearing aids.

I did not say you were given a 30-day suspension, I said "assuming" you were given...


like i said sir i didnt get any 30 day suspension. so i want to know if may laban ako if dadalhin ko sa dole ang case ko sir.

like i said sir, you might be entitled to damages of 30k if it is proven (via the courts) that due process was not observed. But you still may be out of the company.

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11 Re: terminated without notice on Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:13 am

alexisbantilan


Reclusion Perpetua
IaNLaO,

Council is correct.
You have to choose to quit being tardy or to quit at all.
Lesson learned, don't be late because our work is our bread and butter.
Dito tyo kumukuha ng makakain natin sa araw-araw so we have to protect our work also.

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12 Re: terminated without notice on Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:36 am

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
@sir Alex yeah sir i know that naman po. pero according kasi sa iba ko napagtanungan being terminated ang pinaka maproseso. at pag sinabi daw na terminated ka mahihirapan kna makahanap ng trabaho.

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13 Re: terminated without notice on Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:24 am

council


Reclusion Perpetua
IaNLaO wrote:@sir Alex yeah sir i know that naman po. pero according kasi sa iba ko napagtanungan being terminated ang pinaka maproseso. at pag sinabi daw na terminated ka mahihirapan kna makahanap ng trabaho.

pag merong "daw" medyo kailangan pag-isipan mabuti. kasi baka chismis lang yun.

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14 Re: terminated without notice on Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:33 am

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
council wrote:
IaNLaO wrote:@sir Alex yeah sir i know that naman po. pero according kasi sa iba ko napagtanungan being terminated ang pinaka maproseso. at pag sinabi daw na terminated ka mahihirapan kna makahanap ng trabaho.

pag merong "daw" medyo kailangan pag-isipan mabuti. kasi baka chismis lang yun.

ah so makakahanap pako ng trabaho after being terminated is that it sir?

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15 Re: terminated without notice on Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:33 am

alexisbantilan


Reclusion Perpetua
iNLAO,

Ilang years kna nagwowork?
iN the tone of your asking parang elementary kapa lng.
Its up to your negotiating attitude and how you can pass interviews kung paano ka makakawork ulit.
Or its up kung hindi naman tatawag ang new employer mo sa old employer mo.

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16 Re: terminated without notice on Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:45 am

IaNLaO


Arresto Menor
mag 4 years palang sir. child like ba ang pagtatanong ko when u said na parang elementary palang ako? im sorry if it sounded like that. its my first job kasi and first time ko ma terminate. correct me if im wrong...

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