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1 Slight Physical Injury: Need legal advice pls on Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:56 pm

redfox


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A friend of mine was in a party having chit chat with only "kabatian" friends. So happened he was left alone by his close friends. A guy which he knows by "hi, hello" and he didnt feel like talking to approached him to make a joke of him. He refused. And was asked again and he refused the second time. When asked again my friend said no. This was heard by another guy and said "what is your problem, p***** I** mo!" My friend said did he just curse me? So he cursed the guy back. The first guy who approached pushed him and my friend spilled his drink from the glass he was holding to his face. My friend is only 5'3 tall and the other guy is literally big and about 5'8. my friend felt and saw the guys fist about to hit his face, he accidentally threw his glass and hit the guys forehead. The 2nd guy then came approaching hitting my friend on the head. The 2nd guy was also bigger and taller in shape and height. luckily, my friend bowed down to protect his head not to get hurt. unfortunately, the bar called for police and they were all taken to the precicnt. after the guy was stiched up with 4 stiches, they signed a logbook at the frontdesk of the police station stating they are droping charges and wants my friend to pay medical bills pertaiting the incident. so my friend agreed. After few days, the compliant wants all medical bills, even his BP, MRI and diebetic treatment be paid off and lawyers fee for putting it into writing. my friend did not sign the undertaking since he wasnt yet represented by a lawyer to make a counter afffidavit. Atty, what should my friend do?

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attyLLL


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he should make an offer of a flat amount of what he wants to pay. he should also start preparing for filing a criminal charge and defending against one if it is not accepted. did he get medico-legal certificate of his own injuries?

he accidentally threw his glass and hit the guys forehead.
no one is going to believe this accidentally thing.


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redfox


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Atty. my friend felt it was grave threat already. from the time he was pushed. yes the guy had a medico legal already. My friend, just had "bukol" on his head when he was punched by the two. He did not have medico legal for that. Its only been a week since the incident. If they do not agree with the offer and files the case, will subpoena for arraignment be released first?

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attyLLL


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then he should claim self-defense, not an accident. if no settlement is reached, either of them can file a complaint at the prosecutor's office. it will be up to the prosecutor whether he will conduct preliminary investigation, but normally they will and the other party will be allowed to present their counter affidavit and evidence.

where is the wound on the guy who had stitches? the kind of charge depends on how long it will require medical attention as stated on the medico-legal certificate. my guess this is less serious physical injuries. if it's on his face, it may be serious physical injuries.


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earvin


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Sir, basi dun sa sinupaang salaysay ng pagrereklamo ng complaint vs sa asawa ko... slight physical injury... mali po yung date nakalagay dun Aug 22, 2010 po yun ng gabi nangyari din dun sa salaysay niya Aug 23, 2010 ng gabi daw... may supporting docs kami yung first summon ng mediation hearing namin sa baranagay at photocopy ng blotter namin, may part dun sa photocopy yung blotter din nila na nauna lang samin... nagcounter blotter din kami... so paano po yun? para technical na yata yun... i don't know. need advice.. thanks.

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attyLLL


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don't focus on the date. as long as the act of injury is proven, the date is not material. that is why fiscals put "on or about DATE". who reports first at the police doesn't matter either.

focus on the event and what happened.


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earvin


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Sir,

Hi ulit, may medical certificate po yung nag file complaint sa asawa ko ng physical injury. pero nakalagay dun not valid as medico legal cert. at wala po siyang result sa medical exminations niya kung may pasa ba, o kahit na anong result pero may gamot na iniresita sa kanya. Magagamit ho ba namin ito na evidence na wala talaga nangyari na physical injury. den ngayon yung best friend ng complainant witness daw dun sa pananadyak ng asawa ko sa complainant pero alam namin na baised po itong witness kasi nga po best friend niya.. anything puede nyang sabihin, sa part naman ng asawa ko naginvestigate yung barangay, documented din po ito, wala po silang napatunayan na may nangyaring pananadyak kahit po bantay ng establishment kung saan nangyari yung incident wal rin po siyang nakitang ganun... pero unfortunately ayaw nya mag witness sa amin kasi ayaw niyang madamay pa kasi kilala rin niya yung complainant. Nasa prosecutor na po itong case.

Thanks.
EARVIN

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have you filed your counter affidavit?


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earvin


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Hi. Gud AM.continuation po i2 ng post ko kahapon. Sa October 26, 2010 pa ho kami magsubmit ng counter affidavit.. pero naghearing na po kami sa prosecutor, naginvestigate na po siya, interview lang po sa both sides.
Sabi ng complainant pa sa prosecutor, idinamay lang ang asawa ko sa away nila ng Mama ng asawa ko, kaya namersonal din siya.
Yung case kasi ng asawa ko bunga lang sa case ng Mama niya at ng complainant. Wala talaga siyang kinalaman. Siyempre sa galit ng asawa ko, kasi hindi na nga siya nakikialam idinamay pa kami. Muntik na nga kaming mgahiwalay dahil sa ginawa ng complainant. Gusto niyang kompruntahin ang complainant pero hindi niya tinadyakan ang complainant, nagattempt lang siya pero nakaiwas agad i2.. klaro naman sa Medical Certificate niya, walang results..may attempted physical injury bang kaso..Help naman THANKS. FYI, may complaint din kami sa barangay vs sa complianant, pero hindi na namin i2 ipursue kasi additional sakit ng ulo lang po i2 at napatawad na namin ang complainant. At nagdecidede din po ang Barangay, we have supporting docs po, na hindi na dapat siya bibigyan ng certificate to file action (CFA) based dun sa agreement ng lahat ng parties na involved, Lupon, Captain, Respondent at ng complainant na hindi sila magissue ng CFA sa complainant kapag napatunayan nila na nagsisinungaling lang i2 (w/ supporting docs). Kasi po sa barangayy pa lang ay paiba-iba na siya ng statements. Pero nagpa Tulfo po siya which forced them issue the CFA. FYI lang po.. thanks..

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attyLLL


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earvin, just get all your evidence together along with that of your witnesses. prepare all you affidavits and submit to the prosecutor. that is your best move now. if there is no injury and there are witnesses then slight physical injuries will not prosper. good luck.


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longwee


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hi good am atty! ask ko lang po about sa sinamapang kaso sa aming tatlo ng kasama ko. noong dec 30 2008 po nangyri ang away. hindi naman po ko ang nakapalo ng bote ng beer sa muka ng kaaway ng kasama ko kundi ang isa ko pong kasama at akoy umaawat lng. nagkaroon po kme ng settlement sa presinto pero d po namen na isettle dahil po ang naka palo po naming kasama ayaw po maki cooperate sa amin dalawa ng pinsa ko at ngayon po kme ang nadidiin. dahil po nag karoon kme ng kasulatan sa papel at sulat kamay lng ng magulang nila na tutulong kame sa pag papa gamot ng anak niya. 10k daw nagastos nila sa hospital at nag bigay kme ng 1k downpayment at kung hindi kme tumupad sa usapan ay sasampahan nila kame ng phyisical injury na walang abiso ng atty namin o kaya ay lagda. dahil po hndi namen na settle dahil po hindi nakiki pag cooperate ang naka palo naming ksama at ibang pangalan pa ang ibinigay nya. sinampahn po kame ng kasong physical injury pero lagpas na po sa 2 months period para magsampa pa sila dahil po March na po sila nag sampa ng kaso. dumaan na sa piskal ang kaso namen hnd kme naka settle dahil hnd po namen kaya ang 50k na gusto nilang settlement at ngayon po ay nasa court na ang hearing namen. may first hearing na kame nung June 15, 2010 pinapag ayos na kme doon ng atty at pumayag naman po kame pero po may nangyri sa akin aksidente sa motor noong July 24, 2010. mahigit 1 momth po ako sa hospital dahil na dislocate po ang hips ko. hndi na po namen na isettle noong August dahil yun po ang month na deadline nila sa amin at itong Nov. 16, 2010 po may hearing po kame ulit dahil hnd po namen sila ulit na settle. itatanong ko lang po kung pwede po ba kme mag motion to quash dahil po late na sila mag sampa ng kaso??? at saka po ako po ay wala namang ginawa maari po ba ako maabswelto??? pero ang sinumpaang salaysay ng kalaban eh kameng tatlo daw ang pumalo sa mukha nya dapat po wasak wasak na ang muka nya pero slight physical lng po ang resolution sa amin ng piskal. salamat po ng marami!

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yes you can file a motion to quash based on prescription of the offense.


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longwee


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kahit na po ba may kasunduan kame na mag ssettle kame sa kaso?? pwede padin po kame mag file ng motion to quash? salamat po!

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attyLLL


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let me get it straight. you entered into a settlement at the Philippine Mediation Center?

nevertheless, what is important in filing a motion to quash is that you have entered a plea of not guilty. you may still file a motion to quash on the basis of prescription and the the criminal liability has been extinguished.


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longwee


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nag bayad na kasi kme ng 1k sa pa unang bayad namen sa nagastos nila nung nag pa gamot siya noong nangyri ang insdinte. 10k dw ang nagastos nila. humingi kme ng installment para mabayarn ang kakulangan pa namen ngunit d kme nka sunod sa usapan at kinasuhan nya kme. hndi pa kme nkakarating sa Philippine Mediation Center. verbal pa lng ang usapan namen na makiki pag settle kame at malaki ang hinhingi nya 50k.. salamat po!

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then i recommend you file a motion to quash, good luck


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17 idinawit sa kaso on Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:04 pm

jiper


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magandang araw po Atty. gusto ko po sana maikwento ang pangyayari ngunit nauunawaan ko po na madami rin kayo dapat pang basahin at matulungan.

Ako po at ang aking mga magulang ay naisama pong kasuhan ng Frustrated Murder noong 2009. Recently, bumaba yun resolution at binaba ang kaso to Slight Physical injury.

Nangyari po ang gulo nung Birthday ko at sa tapat ng bahay nmin, bisita ko VS anak ng kapitbahay namin na umuwing lasing galing sa ibang inuman.

Naniniwala po ako na mapapatunayan na hindi ako involve sa gulo at lalo na po ang Nanay at Tatay ko.

Ano po kaya ang pwede naming maikaso laban sa kapitbahay nmin at sa kanyang testigo na nagsinungaling at sinabi sa kanilang affidavit na nakita nila ako at ang aking mga magulang na nangunguna sa pagkuyog sa nagulpi nilang anak?

nung nangyari po ang gulo, nasa likod ako ng bahay at nageEntertain ng ibang bisita, yun nanay at tatay ko po ay nagbabyahe ng pampasaherong jeep.

kapag kinasuhan po nmin sila pabalik, yun pagsisinungaling nila, pede rin po kaya kami matulungan ng PAO nun o kailangan namin ng Private Lawyer?

isa po sa problema kasi nmin ang pera, yun complainant po e mapera kasi, nagawa nya pong bayaran yun testigo nila upang mailabas na kami po ay nandun din.

maraming salamat po Atty.

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attyLLL


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you have already won a big victory because the charges were reduced. was there ever a complaint filed at the bgy? if none, the slight physical injuries case cannot be filed in court.

i do not recommend you file perjury against the witnesses, unless you have direct proof that they knew that they were lying.


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jiper


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naku, maraming salamat po AttyLLL, d ko po expect na mabilis maReply yun post ko, maraming salamat po.

ang alam po namin naIfile na nila kasi nga po inasikaso na ng piscal tapos po nung nakaraan lang natanggap namin yun letter, resolution down to SPI. tapos po nagbigay rin ng schedule na sa february ay paghaharapin pa kung iaareglo o hindi bago tuluyang iTurn Over sa korte.

Atty, maaari nyo po bang magbigay ng halimbawa kung ano po yun "direct proof that they knew that they were lying"?
yun tumayong testigo po kasi ay yun may tindahan sa harap mismo ng bahay namin na mismong tapat rin kung saan nangyari yun saksakan at suntukan.
alam ko po na mahirap paniwalaan na sila e binayaran para magsinungaling.
tahimik po ang ibang kapitbahay namin na may alam sa pangyayari, pero po, pgnakakausap ako nung ilan, pabulong nilang sinasabi sa akin na naniniwala sila sa amin at alam nila na binayaran ng complainant yun.
my issue rin po sa complainant at sa kapitan. Bias po yun kapitan, mgkumpare po ang ama nung nabugbog at yun kapitan ng lugar namin.

kung sa tingin nyo po na hindi na nararapat balikan sila ng perjury, ikoConsider ko rin po. masyado lng po kasing madami silang naabala, hindi lang mga magulang ko, ako po ay nasa ibang bansa, ngayon kailangan ko bumalik balik ng pilipinas, gastos po s tiket at bawas po sa sahod ko.
tapos po yun mga bisita ko na tagaManila, nadamay rin kahit mga babae. kasi po, pauwi napo sila pagkatapos nung pangyayari, e hinarang po sila ng kagawad na nagiimbestiga nun at ayaw sila palabasin hanggang di sila pumipirma sa baranggay logbook. tapos nagulat na lang kami, pati sila, lahat ng nakasulat sa logbook, e nadamay na sa kaso kahit babae.

maraming salamat po talaga Atty, Godbless po.

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attyLLL


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while it hurts, i recommend you explore settlement, it's still better than having a case. if not, then the better thing to do is to prepare your evidence as best as you can.

positive evidence such as that he was not in a position to witness what he claims. good luck.


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jiper


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cge po Atty, maraming maraming salamat po sa advice. Tama nga nmn po na mas maige nga ang walang kasong inaalala. Cymepre po kasi naman, talagang maapektuhan masyado ang isang tao lalo na kapag napgbibintangan at naabala.

balitaan ko nalang po kayo sa progress ng kaso namin at kung nandun na nga po sa sitwasyon n yun.

Maraming maraming salamat po ulit AttyLLL. maagang maligayang pasko at manigong bagong taon po sa inyo at sa inyong pamilya.

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gerlyreancho


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good morning po attny.

Ask ko lang po sana kasi nagpunta ako sa bahay ng bf ko na 2 to 3 times a week po ay doon ako natutulog. And isang araw pumunta ako doon para kumuha ng pera na pera namin ng bf ko at normal na sa amin ang ganun nagkataon lang po na wala siya kinuha ko po yung at nakita naman ng kapatid niya na walang laman at nakuha na ng bf ko ang laman sinara niya ang pinto at itinulak ako nauntog ang ulo ko at nagkasugat ako sa braso at hinampas niya ako ng saucepan na pumutok naman ang labi ko. lalaki po ang gumawa sa akin nito na kung hindi ko pa po siguro siya natabig hindi pa po ako nakatkbo palabas pumunta na kami ng barangay at pumirma sila sa kasunduan na babayaran nila ang gastusin pero hindi sila tumupad ano po ang laban ko sa kaso nag pa medico legal na po ako

maraming salamat po sana po matulunga nyo ako

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attyLLL


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you can ask for the bgy to execute the agreement or issue a certificate to file action so you can file at the prosecutor's office. good luck.


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Attny:

Thanks po ng marami ang bilis nyo po magreply..

Attorney malakas po ba ang laban ko kasi naguguluhan na ako ang sabi po kasi nila wala daw ako laban kasi pinalalabas na nagnanakaw ako at tresspassing eh ang sa akin po kasi lagi na naman me andun di ko na po alam ang gagawin ko wala na rin po ako malapitan pwede po ba ako kumuha ng attny. sa munisipyo kasi may kaya po ang kamag anak ng nakagawa sa akin ng pang bububogbog

Salamat po sa lahat attny.

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attyLLL


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isn't your boyfriend backing you up?? nevertheless, you can still file your complaint. there are no guarantees in litigation. you will have to do the best you can in presenting your evidence.

remember you need a bgy certification. has it been more than 2 months since the incident?

on the other hand, you can file a case just to implement the bgy agreement. it can be enforced against the respondent and anyone who may have guaranteed performance.


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