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ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook.

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1 ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:03 pm

rokusrakas


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Hi, mag ask lang po ako ng advice.

Ganito po kasi ang nangyari. Last friday ng punta ako ng isang local bar and resto dito sa Malabon. After a couple of beers with my friends umuwi na po ako. Di pa ako nakakalayo, narealize ko na nawawala yung wallet ko. Pagbalik ko sa bar, inabot sakin yung wallet ko ng isang waiter, sya daw ang nakakita. Pagtingin ko wala na ung laman na php500.00. Ang sabi nung waiter wala daw sya talagang nakita. I acknowledge that, kaso ayaw nilang i acknowledge yung point ko na meron talaga kong iniwan dun. Tapos ni hindi man lang ginawang ituro sa akin kung saan nya napulot at umuwi narin sya (kami na ksi yung huling customer dun). Pag uwi ko, dahil na rin siguro sa inis, nag post ako ng rant sa facebook account ko. Eto po yun:


"I was robbed at 'name of the place'.
I have been a loyal customer for years now and I've never had any complaints. Earlier me and my friends had a few drinks, and after we're done, I accidentally left my wallet (my fault I know). After no more than 5 minutes, I came back and had my wallet handed over to me by a waiter. Guess what? I was missing php500.00. It may not mean much to other people but it does for me. Now their staff is saying Im a lier and my wallet never had phop500.00 in it. I apologize for the bad publicity, but I won't be coming back nor recommend 'name of the place' to my friends, like I always do, unless management do something about it."


Tapos, earlier nalaman ko n ng file ng ORAL DEFAMATION against me. E sa pagkakaintindi ko naman po sa pinost ko e, wala naman akong direct implication na sinisiraan ko sila. Sinabi ko lang po ang nagyari. In fact, even before marecieve ko yung sumbong e tinaggal ko na sa Facebook yun. Kasi nga wala naman akong intention na siraan sila. Ngayon ako na po ang nawalan, ako pa yung hinabla. Anu po ba ang pwede kong gawin? Option po ba na irepresent ko nlng yung sarili ko. Wala din kasi akong pangbayad sa abogado para harapin sila, besides alam ko naman po na wala talaga kong intention manira. Kung tutuusin nga po, base sa last sentence ko e parang humihingin pa nga ako ng tulong sa management nila. Salamat po. Looking forward po sa opinion ninyo.

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2 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:51 pm

attyLLL


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are you sure the case they filed is oral defamation, not libel? who filed the case, the bar or the waiter? your wall is public?

the problem is that every defamatory statement is presumed to be malicious, even if true. yes, you can represent yourself, but you do so at your own risk.


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3 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:59 pm

rokusrakas


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opo Oral defamation. yung may ari po nung bar. anu po ba yung tingin ninyo ang chances ko?

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4 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:37 am

attyLLL


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the proper charge should have been libel because the defamatory statement is in writing.

here is how i handled the defense of a client:
1) denial that libel was committed, no admission that client actually posted it but no denial either to avoid perjury
2) improper presentation of electronic evidence
3) from the post, argued that there was no malice.

i think you have a very decent chance of defeating the charge. i don't believe the defamatory statement was targeting the bar, but the employees instead who were unnamed. the element of identity is missing.


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5 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:00 am

rokusrakas


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thank you po attyLLL. I feel a lot better now. Sana nga po maintindihan din nla yung stand ko.

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6 oral defamation on Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:49 am

elp12


Arresto Menor
atty help po..

kinasuhan po ako ng oral defamation ng mismong kapatid ko. my letter po ako fr brgy.. pwede po kyang hindi ko siputin yun at humingi ako ng additional statements skanila n kung anong basis nila sa kaso bago ko ientertain yung case?? napakababaw po kasi,, baka mama ko po ang mgstand as witness againts mo (di n po kasi ako ngsusustento sa bhay).. pero wala po akong sinabi n d mganda.. my work po akong tao at npklaking abala skin nito.. gusto ko din pong iclear n kung skaling post sa fb yung paguugatan ng kaso, valid ba ang post sa fb para sa oral defamation?? if ever, pano kung deleted na yung post hardcopy print ang magigng basis of evidence nla pwede b un?

balak ko png mgfile ng counter charges.. napakasakit po nitong gnagawa nila sakin.. you can also send pm at elpmid1212@gmail.com

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7 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:17 pm

attyLLL


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while it is rarely enforced, deliberate failure to appear at bgy hearings are considered contempt of court.

no extensive complaint is required. if you don't settle this matter at the bgy, the next step is for him to file a criminal complaint at the prosecutor's office.


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8 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:06 pm

jmthanz


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can i post a screen shot here of FB comments against me and a friend, since the picture was already deleted by the owner? which I think defamatory thanks

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9 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:57 pm

shawtypinai


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buti po d2 may comment/reply..sa post ko wala.. Sad

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10 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:59 pm

attyLLL


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jm, that's not necessary. just ask your question.

shaw, post your question in the proper section


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11 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:14 am

shawtypinai


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oh..thank you attyLLL

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12 Re: ORAL DEFAMATION for ranting on Facebook. on Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:22 pm

lgnored


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Hi po Happy new year! Just want to refer po about libel case po... NagPost po ako ng status po s FB about s nagyari po sa akin dat day which is po nagalit po talaga ako, like sinabi ko po

"ang face ng owner ng dog gaya ng kanyang ugali! Kung ano nga nmn kapangit ang mukha triple pa ang ugali s kapangitan nia!"

Nkagat po kasi ako ng aso nla on our way to my daughters party (December 12, 2012) yung aso po nkatali s multicab po nla na nka park sa public highway tpos i thought po ok lng ako kasi po walang blood n lumbas pro nasira talaga ung pants ko nabutas po xa thought po wala lng kasi prang scratch lng... yun pla my 2 butas mgkaharap & i told them nkagat po ako ng dog nyo! tapos ung wife po inutosan ang hubby nia na ilipat na ang dog (un pala po pangalawa na po pala ako na biktima non dog n un dat morning kaso ung isa eh kamuntikan lng). cnabi ko po s kanila bbalik po ako hatid ko muna mga anak ko s party ksi nga po xmas party po s daycare nmin d2, & i dont want to ruin their day kasi jollibee party pa man din ang ppuntahan nmin, so d na po ako nkblik kasi ayaw mgpa iwan ng mga anak ko but during po s party namanhid po talaga at first from my hips down to my lower leg akala ko lng din po resulta un sa mixed emotions ko nkagat ako na stress ako, but the manhid is bearable p nmn xa so i manage to go home with my kids p po. I decided to go home nlng muna kasi ngTantrums n po mga bb ko pati aq napagod na rin so umuwi nlng po kami. Sa pagod ko rin po nkatulog din po ako 2gether with my kids so hindi nako nkbalik s tindahan nung owner ng dog dat day. At night d po aq nkatulog manhid po ung lahat ng left side ko whch dun n side nkgat yung thigh ko tpos knaumagahan found out ang laki ng pasa s thigh ko between ng 2holes, wen my aunt saw it kinaumgahan nga sabi niya pa inject ka kahit scratch nga lng dw needd tlga mgpa inject for preventive measure, dpat with in 24 hrs lng after ng incident ma bigyan aq ng injection so dali dali po ako ngpunta s city health nmin d2 at kagat nga ng dog according ng attending physician ko hindi nga lng malalim so bnigyan nia ako ng reseta 4sessions of verorab tpos 1session of Favirab to be done w/in a month plus Sessions of Tetanus. So ngpay po muna ako ng initial dose for my first session nghanap po ako ng kahati kc ang 1vial is good for 2 shots so pra mkatipid nghanap aq ng patient dun n same s reseta ko luckily my nhanap po ako, it was a long process umabot kami until 4pm s city health to provincial hospital for some sort of skin testing, so around 4pm(December 13, 2012) when i confront them po to pay the damages kasi nga po ngpa check dw po ako kaagad w/out informing them?! Na they were awared na nga s ngyari supposedly bblik po ako dat day dko nlng tlga kinaya ang hapo at pagod.
Said those words po s FB stat ko po kc sinabihan po nia ako na "porke't may pera cla peperahan ko daw cla?"
ang sabi ko nmn "Te bakit ko nmn kau pperahan eh dumokot nga ako s sariling wallet ko dahil at risk yong health ko d2, aso nyo po yan obligasyon nu po e2"

Kaya po ako ngpost nun sa sobrang inis ko po talaga, ako pa ang nkagat ng aso inaccused pa ako peperahan ko lng cla tpos no sign of willingness to pay the damage ako pa po nkagat inutusan p po nia ako kumuha ng indigency s brgy dahil ayaw dw po niyang mgbyad kahit piso.
Now pina brgy ko na po xa 2nd session nmin ngaun Jan. 8, 2014 tpos nghain din xa ng summon nga laban sa akin ng libel dahil s post ko s FB hindi po kami friends actually ung FB ko po private po.
Aw ngsummon din po pla xa s mga ngcomment s post ko na purely advices lng nmn cnabi nla s akin ano dpat ko gawin...
She claimed po napahiya dw po siya in which i did not state her name? D po ba? Pinagpistahan dw po xa s whole FB eh private nga ang FB ko maybe she got a copy
of my post kc 1 s ngcomment s akin eh friend ng anak nia..
Please po i need po an advice if i should be worried about this issue libel case base s post ko & my friends who are just concerned about me was dragged into this pati cla my libel summon na din hindi nga nla kilala whom i was referring to eh?
Additional po, ang sabi po dun s lupon (one of the lupon) meron dw po libel dun kahit no name mentioned kasi nga daw po s "dog owner" na words? Assuming po iyun dbuh? Kasi nga daw po according to one of our lupon not mentioned nga ang name ng owner ng dog kaso sino ba daw ang nkagat?ako dw... so ang alam ng lahat ang tinutukoy ko ay ung owner ng dog? so alam daw ng lahat nkagat ako so valid din dw un na napahiya xa at pwede ako kasuhan ng libel?? may grounds po ba talaga for them to file a case against me sa post ko na un? na s pagkaka alam ko wala nmn defamatory words dun ah? correct me if im wrong po.

Please po give me an advice:(((
Thnx po & happy new year!!!
God bless

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