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KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA

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1 KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:36 pm

cuppycake


Arresto Menor
Good pm Atty LLL. Hihingi lang po ako nang advise sa inyo kung papaano ang aking gagawin sa kapatid ko.Dahil sa kapabayaan nya sa mga ipinapadala sa kanya nang dati nyang employer at hindi siya nadalo sa subpoena. Hindi namin alam na may problema pala sya sa dati nyang employer nalaman na lamang namin nang puntahan sya sa bahay para akestuhin at may dala ang mga pulis nang arrest warrant. Ngayon ay nakakulong sya.
Nagtratrabaho siya dati sa isang pawnshop at nakakapsok lamang sya sa loob nang vault kapag absent ang vault custodian, reliever sya pero walang audit inventory nangyari nang sabihan sya nang verbal notice na reliever sya when vault custodian is absent. Hanggang may nalaman na anomalya ang kapatid ko. Sya ang reliever that day, nang pumunta ang customer at gustong tubusin ang alahas nya pero pagtingin sa lagayan e wala ang alahas. Kinabukasan sinabi nang kapatid ko sa vault custodian ang incident at sinabi nang kapatid ko na sasabihin na niya sa Area Manager nila ang incident pero hindi pumayag ang Vault Custodian na iparating ito kaya hindi nasabi nang kapatid ko sa Manager pero later sinabi din ng kapatid ko sa Area Manager at natatakot nang pumasok ang 2 pa nilang kasama sa pawnshop. Nagkaroon nang imbestigasyon, at inilipat sa ibang branch ang mga kasama nya maliban sa kapatid ko. After 1 month sinuspended ng company ang kapatid ko at yung vault custodian ay nagresigned at may suspicious cancer. Illegal suspension ang ginawa nang company sa kapatid ko hanggang tuluyan nang hindi din pumasok ang kapatid ko sa pawnshop.

Atty, dapat bang kasuhan nang QUALIFIED THEFT ang kapatid ko ganun reliever lamang sya at walang audit inventory sa pawnshop na nangyari bago humawak nang vault ang kapatid ko? Kung hindi dahil sa isang customer hindi malalaman ng kapatid ko na may ganun anomalya palang nangyayari sa pawnshop. Hindi kaya planted o matagal nang ginagawa yon nang vault custodian bago pa maging reliever ang kapatid ko? Natakot kasi ang kapatid ko kaya nya pinabayaan ang mga dumarating na subpoena sa kanya. Almost six months palang ang kapatid ko simula nang maging reliever sya nang vault custodian kapag absent ito. Saka 3 branches reliever ang kapatid ko pero ung 1 branch lang may nawalang ng malaking halaga ng alahas.

Ano po ang maari namin gawin para matulungan ang kapatid ko na nakakulong kasi NO BAILABLE po ang kaso nya. Maari po ba kaming makipag-usap sa may-ari nang pawnshop outside the court kahit naaresto na kapatid ko at nakakulong na? Kasi wala naman kaming ganun kalaking halaga kapag lumaban sa korte at sa PAO kami lalapit.
Almost 290k po ang sinasabing nawawalang halaga nang alahas sa loob nang vault.
Yong vault custodian po ay until now ay nagtatago po at hindi pa nahuhuli.

Atty LLL nahingi po ako sa inyo nang magandang gagawin namin na hakbang para makalabas ang kapatid ko sa kulungan. please help po.. Maraming salamat po!

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2 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:10 pm

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at this point, the only way to get out is either through bail or he is acquitted.

for bail, he can file a motion for bail. the prosecution will be forced to present its evidence immediately and if it is not strong, then bail will be granted. note that the bail will still be very high around P150k.

this is a gamble, if the prosecution's case is strong, then they will be able to submit their evidence very quickly, and conviction will happen very quickly.

on the other hand, he can choose to endure being in jail, and let time pass. many things can happen such as evidence being lost and witnesses becoming unavailable. this can lead to acquittal.

study the evidence presented during preliminary investigation. the most important point to convict is to prove that your brother is the only person with access to the vault and he was the person in last possession of the stolen item. if the evidence of this is not strong, you should gamble on a motion for bail.


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3 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:50 pm

cuppycake


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Atty LLL, salamat sa payo nyo. Kaya lang sobrang laki nang bail around P150K.

Pwede po bang makipag usap na lang kami sa company nang outside the court para masettle, kasi wala kami ganun kalaking pera?

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4 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:03 pm

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if you do, be careful about what you say because an offer of settlement can be used as an admission against you.


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5 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:33 pm

cuppycake


Arresto Menor
Atty LLL, thank for the response.

APRIL nakarecived ang kapatid ko nang fake na alahas worth 2,100 so binigyan yan ng written warning. MAY nalaman nang kapatid ko na may anomalya o incident na nangyari sa pawnshop branch, pinagawa silang lahat nang written explanation. JULY binigyan sya ng 30 days suspension regarding sa nareceived nya na fake na alahas at ang reason ng management ay "PARA WALANG HASSLE SA AUDITING". So nagreklamo ang kapatid ko sa DOLE dahil illegal suspension ang ginawa sa kanya nang company. Before the hearing tumawag ang Area Manager nila at sinabing nagkamali lang daw nang bigay na memo sa kapatid ko na dapat ay ung about sa lost jewelries sa branch vault. Hanggang di naayos ang usapan nila sa DOLE at dinala na sa NLRC. First hearing, d dumating ang management at kinabukasan ginawa nang inital investigation ang kapatid ko nang company nila without Atty companion ang kapatid ko.
In short po, Atty LLL related po yong pagrereklamo nang kapatid ko sa DOLE sa pagkakaso nila nang QUALIFIED THEFT. Inereklamo nang kapatid ko sa DOLE ang company at ang company naman kinasuhan ang kapatid ko nang criminal case na qualified theft.
Dapat po ba nilang kasuhan ang kapatid ko? Dahil sa kapabayaan nya sa subpoena na pinapadala sa kanya. Three branches reliever kapatid ko pero bakit 1 branch lang nawalan ng ganong kalaking halaga ng alahas.? Hindi po kaya gumanti lang ang company sa kapatid ko dahil sa pagrereklamo nya sa DOLE?

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6 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Thu Oct 21, 2010 12:58 am

attyLLL


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when you say dole, do you mean the nlrc? at this point, it is no longer relevant because your brother is in jail, but he can point this out when he testifies so as to put color on the management's accusations.


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7 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:03 pm

cuppycake


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Yes NLRC!
Kasi nung time na nakareceived bro ko nang 30 days suspension nkipag usap pa sya sa management at ang sagot nang management: "SINCE ON GOING PA ANG AUDITING, HE WILL BE PLACE UNDER SUSPENSION. PARA WALANG HASSLE SA AUDITING.AFTER CONDUCTING REVIEW ANG EVALUATION OF FAKE ITEMS AT THE BRANCH". e Since first offense ng bro ko ito nasa company handbook nila WRITTEN & VERBAL WARNNG lang. Kaya nagreklamo bro ko sa NLRC. After NLRC kinasuhan naman ang bro q nang company ng criminal case na QUALIFIED THEFT.
Atty LLL, sa tingin nyo po dapat bang kasuhan bro ko nang criminal case na ang evidence lang nila laban sa bro ko ay nkakapasok sya sa loob ng vault during reliever? May access man bro ko sa vault pero in absent of Branch Head Vault Custodian only. Kasi pagkakamali lang ng bro ko hindi pinabayaan nya ang mga subpoena na pinadala sa kanya.
Paano mo ang maganda gawin namin? Walang evidence hawak bro ko at nasa company ang lahat ng records.
Lito na po kami paano makakalabas sa kulungan ang bro namin. Kindly help us! Thank you Atty LLL!

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8 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:48 pm

attyLLL


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there will be no magic solution, it really is just bail or acquittal that will get your brother out. does he have his own lawyer or PAO? what is the stage of the proceedings?

indeed having mere access is not sufficient for conviction, there has to be better evidence.

the illegal suspension case is not a great defense, but it can be raised to show the motives of the company. i recommend that the nlrc case be still pursued even if he is in detention.


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9 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:27 pm

cuppycake


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Atty LLL salamat sa inyong payo at makakatulong ito sa amin ng malaki. Hope na makalabas na ang kapatid ko. As of now nakikipag-usap pa po kami sa PAO..

Thank you!!!

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10 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:02 pm

cuppycake


Arresto Menor
Nagpapunta na po ako nang representative ko sa court at ang sabi dapat daw po ay hindi nila ako kakasuhan kung nakipagcooperate lang daw ako sa company. At umatend sa mga hearing during the time na pinadalahan ako nang subpoena. At accessories to the crime lang po ako. Gagawin daw sana ako ng complainant na witness laban dun sa Vault Custodian.

Sa tingin nyo po, anong next step ko matapos makausap ang judge na may hawak nang kaso ko.? Aminado naman ang employer ko na mali yong binigay nilang memo sa akin.At kung nagkamali ang HRD nang bigay na memo sa akin bakit ito pinirmahan ng mga TOP MANAGEMENT?

About naman po sa NLRC complain ko, this Nov ang sked nang pagpapasa ng position paper namin but Yesterday, I received letter from my company that my first complain at NLRC was dismissed because hindi daw ako nagpasa nang position paper ko at nagmomotion ang respondent na dismissed na din ang second file ko. Atty, last week pa po nang Nov ang deadline ng position paper namin. At bakit our company ang nagpadala ng letter sa akin na dismissed na ang complain ko hindi ang NLRC? Base sa NLRC pde naman ako magrefile nang case for 2nd time basta wag nang pababayaan ang reklamo ko ngayon.Second file ko na po ito sa NLRC (same case at respondent) kasi ung una e hindi ako nakagawa ng position paper ko. Ngayon po ay pinapagawa kami ng position paper ng NLRC passed on last week of November.
Thanky you Atty sa mga advise nyo..

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11 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:18 pm

attyLLL


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when was the first nlrc complaint dismissed, and when did you re-file. you have one year in between to re-file.

have the management talk to the prosecutor about dropping you from the complaint. you can negotiate a deal which includes a resolution of the nlrc case and the criminal case. good luck.


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12 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:18 pm

cuppycake


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First file on July 2008 dismissed on Nov 2008.
Second file on Sept 2010..and this Nov passing of my position paper..
Atty, after na makapagpasa kami ng position paper, what the next step at NLRC?

Salamat sa mga payo nyo Atty...More blessing to you! at madami kayong natutulungan sa ganitong website.

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13 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:28 am

attyLLL


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hmmm, if those dates are correct, it means it was more than one year after the dismissal of the case before you re-filed your complaint, and the dismissal should be deemed final. to attack this, you will have to show that you never received a notice of the dismissal of the first complaint.

after the filing of position papers, you can file a reply to the other party's position paper.


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14 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:12 am

cuppycake


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Yes! that date is correct.

to attack this, you will have to show that you never received a notice of the dismissal of the first complaint.
Atty, ano pong ibig nyong sabihin dito? Kasi sa position paper isinulat namin na Nov 2008 nang idismissed ng arbiter ang first complaint. Dapat bang tanggalin sa position paper ang details na ito? May position paper na kami pero hindi pa namin naipapabasa o naipapakita sa PAO kaya ko po naitanong.

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15 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:14 am

cuppycake


Arresto Menor
Matagal po ba bago magkaroon nang resolution ang NLRC case? Mga ilang buwan po kaya aabutin ito? Depende po ba sa arbiter na may hawak nang kaso?

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16 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:57 am

attyLLL


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i suggest you remove it, but the other side can prove when it was received by looking up the records from the previous case. if the resolution comes out in 3 months after the case is submitted, that will be fast.


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17 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:16 pm

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What if yung respondent po ang magsulat sa position paper nila na nadismissed na ito complaint ko sa ibang arbiter? (same complainant at respondent)

Kasi last October nagpadala ang company sa akin at sa NLRC ng MANISFESTATION AND MOTION (gusto nila ipadismissed ang 2nd complaint ko). Hindi po ba iyong makakasama sa aking complaint sa NLRC kapag ang respondent ang nagsulat sa position paper nila.

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18 Re: KAPABAYAAN SA SUBPOENA on Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:25 pm

attyLLL


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the respondent has the right to use that as a defense in his position paper and it may be considered by the arbiter if it is warranted. of course, it may result in your complaint being dismissed.

after a case is first dismissed, you have one whole year to revive it. failure to do so has its consequences.


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