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Shoplifting and Legal Implications

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1 Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:34 am

lostgirl1333


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Hello Attorney, Good day. I understand that you are a very busy person but I sincerely hope you can find time to examine my case.

I was caught shoplifting this July at Robinsons Supermarket Lipa. It was a very dark time in my life and I honestly do not know what led me to do such an act. Whether it was catching my ex in bed with another woman, pressure at work and other personal issues, I know these are not valid reasons to commit a crime but it happened.

I was on my way out when the plainclothes guards stopped me and asked about where I placed some of the items. I pointed at my bag and took them out immediately and I was led to the security office where the OIC proceeded to ask me why I did it. They laid out the stolen goods which amounted to roughly 1780php. They gave me a form to write a statement. Some I remember writing that: Hindi ko alam kung bakit ko ginawa iyon. Hindi ko ugali ang magnakaw. Wala na ako sa sarili noong namimili sa kakaisip sa mga bagay, alam ko naman na kaya kong magbayad.. etc...

I ended up breaking down and telling about my personal issues. I was so ashamed, scared and really lost. The form contained my basic info, name, age, address, parent's name, signature. they looked at my ID to verify info. They said that normally I would be asked to pay the x10 amount. They called the store manager and said that I am willing to settle so we ended up agreeing to x5. My money was not enough on hand so I had to have my elderly mom to bring the money to the store. They ended up telling my mom that I broke a mirror that is why I need to pay. I am 32 y.o. and I have never been more scared in my entire life. I paid the agreed amount of almost 9K. I got a sales invoice for the payment which I kept. Then they let me go.

in my utter fear, i barely asked any questions about what will happen to me after that. I haven't been able to sleep properly since then and I have not stepped into a supermarket/mall since then. Please help me confirm if this is really something I can put behind me - that having made that payment has released me from any legal steps they might take. I hope you can answer my questions

1. will they be reporting the incident to the police?
2. am i going to have a record?
3. is it possible that they will file a case against me without me knowing? what is the usual timeframe?
4. will that reflect on my record like NBI? how soon can i request for an NBI clearance to check?
5. I will be going to the us in a couple of months., Will immigration hold me due to this incident?

PLease... I know I have many questions but I am really really hoping you can help me understand and have peace of mind. I am sorry and regretting everything that happened to me that day. I just really hope I can have the peace of mind to move on with my life again knowing that this is all over.

Thank you and have a great day.
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2 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:46 am

Filia

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I don't think they will still report the matter the police since it was settled imediately. You would only have record if a warrant of arrest is issued against you, that is if the mall will file a case which I think is impossible since you paid and a case filed in court means additional expense for them.

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3 thank you on Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:07 am

lostgirl1333


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Filia wrote:I don't think they will still report the matter the police since it was settled imediately. You would only have record if a warrant of arrest is issued against you, that is if the mall will file a case which I think is impossible since you paid and a case filed in court means additional expense for them.

Hello, Ms. Filia, thank you so much for your response. Can this truly be the case? I am still having sleepless nights thinking of all that has happened. Is there a timeframe, like if they don't file the case in a week, the case is no longer valid? do folks like robinsons inform the guilty that they will be reported to the police?

Is it safe to go to the police station and request for a police clearance, or would it be too early?

My apologies, if I come off as makulit with all my questions. I just really am thankful that you took the time to give me a response. I have been so eagerly awaiting for someone to give me counsel on this and you have been so generous with yours. I also just really want to understand the processes in this situation.

Again, many thanks and looking forward to hearing from you again.

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4 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:40 pm

concepab

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You already paid for those items. Case close.

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5 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:02 pm

lostgirl1333


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Thanks so much po foe the response. Now just one more questuon. I might just be paranoid pero do they share this record with other malls? Their branch or sa sm halimbawa? Hindi ko magawa pang magpunta sa mga mall fearing that alam nila what i did. I am so ashamed and scared

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6 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:06 pm

concepab

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lostgirl1333 wrote:Thanks so much po foe the response.  Now just one more questuon. I might just be paranoid pero do they share this record with other malls? Their branch or sa sm halimbawa? Hindi ko magawa pang magpunta sa mga mall fearing that alam nila what i did. I am so ashamed and scared

most probably yes for security awareness improvement. pero to tag you specifically, hindi naman siguro ganon. at kung sakali na i-share nila yan sa ibang branch, im sure na ang makaka-access lang sa info ay yung mga tao na dapat lang maka-kita.

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7 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:56 pm

lostgirl1333


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Thank you so much. Can i really move on with my life and start fresh?

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8 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:09 pm

concepab

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lostgirl1333 wrote:Thank you so much. Can i really move on with my life and start fresh?

Move on.. malaki ka na Very Happy

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9 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:54 pm

lostgirl1333


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Thanks everyonr for your help. It means so much to me. Kahit paano nabawasan ang pagaalala ko. I learned my lesson. I just did not want this mistake to define my life.. Lalo n plans ko magabroad this year. Salamat po

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10 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Thu Jul 30, 2015 4:54 pm

lostgirl1333


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Thanks everyonr for your help. It means so much to me. Kahit paano nabawasan ang pagaalala ko. I learned my lesson. I just did not want this mistake to define my life.. Lalo n plans ko magabroad this year. Salamat po

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11 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:23 am

Lior123*


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Hi. Good day po. I just want to ask lang po. Ganito kasi nangyari, nasa sm department store kami ng baby ko. So kumuha po ako ng items ng mga items, nilagay ko sa stroller ng baby ko. Naisip ko na walang makakakita kaya hindi ko binayaran at biglang lumabas ako without paying any items na nabili ko. ( i admit, shoplifting po iyon na hindi ko intention talaga na gawin, hindi ko alam kung ano pumasok sa isip ko). So yun po, paglabas ko ng department store sinundan ako nung lady guard and she asked me nicely naman po na hindi nabayaran yung mga items na kinuha ko at kung pwede sumama sa office. Pagdating po ng office nag check ng mga gamit, my bag and diaper bag ng baby ko. At yun nga po nakita yung mga items. Kinuha po yung id ko and personal info and may pinasulat po na letter sa akin kung what time ako pumasok ng department store and kung ano ginawa ko. After po yun inexplain po sa akin na pag 1st offense ganun lang gagawin and then pag 2nd offense, yun daw yung mga pinapakulong nila. Sabi nya kukunan nya ko ng picture pero sa kanila lang daw Yun. After kinunan ng mug shot, pinasulat po nila dun sa letter na ginawa ko na thank you daw po sa sm at binigyan ako ng chance at naexplain na lahat ng pwede mangyari pag inulit ko pa yun. After po nun pinaalis na ko.
Hindi po ako mapakali, na stress po ako kase first time kong gawin yun (at never ko na po uulitin). Ask ko lang po sana kung makikita sa NBI clearance yun and kung pinopost po ba nila yung pictures sa bulletin nila pag forst offense? Hindi po kasi nag sink in sa mind ko yung ibang sinabi nung investigator dahil sa sobrang kaba ko. Thank you po.

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12 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:37 am

lostgirl1333


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Hi sis Lior, sobrang relate ako sa pakiramdam mong yan. Hanggang ngayon d pa rin ako majatulog ng ayos kakaisip sa pangyayari at sa mga cinsequences ng ginawa ko pero sobrang laking tulong ang mga payo nga mga kapatid naten dito at sure ako mapapayuhan ka rin nila para gumaan rin pakiramdam mo

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13 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:06 am

lostgirl1333


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Mga kapatid, nagsend rin ako ng email sa pao regarding the situation. Nagemail sila ng pdf file advicing me to seek private legal help. This got me really worried again. Should I reply to it? Or act on it? Advice po pls... Thanks

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14 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:32 pm

Miabella


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hello po pwede po malaman kung ano na po nangyare kung na post po nla ung picture mo or something happen pa after that settlement. ty

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15 Re: Shoplifting and Legal Implications on Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:46 pm

qwertykamr


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Hello sa lahat, my story happened today at SM department store.

Here's my story, my mom and I went shopping sa SM and we talked about if she have anything else to look for or shop for. So she said she need daster(pambahay). So I said "ok ma sa dept store tayo tumingin since I need to buy head bands". So going inside dept store I went to look for headbands atleast 3 designs and when I'm done I search for my mom on that floor kung saan ako nagcheck then she messaged me she's at 2nd floor restroom. So sabi ko "Okay ma, I'm looking for dresses lang and decide to fit 2 dress na maganda". I knew that my mom will pay for stuff I want namand din. So heading to the fitting room nagffit nko after I''m done nagpakuha ako another stock ng size ng isang dress due the dress alteration kasi di pantay and also bigger size nung isang dress tapos yung isa okay tapos binigay ko lahat ng dress na di ko bibilhin at nasukat. So yun nga tapos na ako magfit nagiintay kami ng mom ko sa fitting room for the saleslady na ibigay sakin yung gusto ko dress in right size, I suddenly put the other dress and headbands sa shopping bag ni Mommy na nabili niya outside the dept store. But while waiting, the saleslady asked me where other dress I tried na sabi ko naibigay ko na sa saleslady na kumuha ng other stock ng dress na hinihintay ko. So yun dumating yung nagbigay then okay na naglalakad na kami lumapit isang saleslady "mam yung stripe dress po nasa shopping bag niyo" sabi ko ay sorry nakalimutan ko tanggalin di ko na kukunin yung isa kasi siyempre may oras na kukunin mo at magiisip ka if u're sure or not while shopping. So I'm okay then we're heading to cashier to pay for my dress na is which cost 1499. Okay na, so pag labas namin dept store kumain kami ni mommy ng lunch before going home when we're done. May nagapproach samin na 2 employees asking for our receipt and for the items bought sabi ko ito yung bag na binilhan then mom checked meron pala naiwan na headbands na cost 149.75 pesos sa isa pang shopping na outside the store nabili so yun pa pala nakalimutan ko isama sa babayaran. Ginawa kong basket kumbaga. It was UNINTENTIONALLY taken. Since nagmamadali na kami umuwi ni ma, sinabi ko na di ko na bibilhin na lang peri sabi "sama daw ako sa office para makausap" so I followed them naman. On the way to the security office, kinausap ako and said write my statement sabi ko ano ba mga isusulat ko dito, kung ano daw ginawa ko sa dept store. So yep I wrote everything but they only said magiging okay lang po lahat "IF I'm going to cooperate with them" then I agreed since I'm positive and clear na wala ako balak magnakaw I have money more than the cost of the headbands value that was taken outside the store. So yun nga I just wrote my statement they gave me also a WAIVER paper to sign ako yung affidavit na pipirma but before I signed nilagay nila I took the stuff but INTENTIONALLY. Sabi ko di ito tama di ko sadya e. Tapos sinabi ba naman yung kelangan lang nila yung name and address saka value nung gamit na nailabas. So sabi ko ito ba yung sinasabi niyo makicooperate ako kahit di naman sadya and in the paper nakalagay sadya and I said they have to edit it kasi mali. Pero sabi bawal magedit kasi yung name and add lang ang need un lang daw ttignan o target. So i asked if I can take pictures or copy of my statement and the waiver. Bawal daw. At bakit? Confidential daw nila yun. And I feel like victim here. So i calm down and agree to their PROCEDURE/SYSTEM since my mom and I need to leave na for other meetings and kasi yun daw naman ginagawa nila sumusunod lang daw sila sa Procedure. They're doing this for them not to lose their jobs but instead of fighting for the right things. They said may evident sila, sabi ko are you saying ang evident niyo is yung may nakita kayo UNINTENTIONALLY di nabayaran. Tapos gagamitin niyo sakin ito dahil ganon nga para may makasuhan kayo. And if you're already following me and my mommy sa loob pa lang you should have stop me and pay for it. Kasi ang ginawa nila is let go and then later complaint outside na so they can file o whatever they will do. Oh also they ask me to count my money inside my wallet for CCTV purpose lang which is irrelevant sa issue. And if they physically abused when they approached pero hindi naman. Di ko lam bakit ganyan.

But anyway, after I signed my waiver and did my statement pinaleave na nila ako and assure me wala na itong follow up issues. They didn't take a mugshot or a pic of me but they have my ID info lang. not sure if they scan my id with pic pa or not.

Pero here's my question/curiosity, may mangyayari ba sakin after I wrote my statement and signed my waiver? Since wala naman sila sinabi na dapat kong gawin pa and they didn't even let me pay the 145.75 " unintentionally stolen" items para maginhawa pakiramdam nila. They just let me go after.

Can someone answer my dilemma? Please

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