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Paghahabol ng babaeng may asawa sa nakabuntis dito.

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
Possible po ba na makapagfile ng reklamo sa Fiscal ang isang babae (na may asawa) doon sa lalaking nakabuntis dito? Yung lalaking nakabuntis doon sa babae ay hindi nya asawa at yung babae ay nakatira pa rin sa bahay ng pamilya ng kanyang asawa.

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ador


Prision Mayor
aba depende sa ikakaso. napakadali pa naman magkaso ng rape,,

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
Actually walang rape na nangyari. May nangyari kay babae (na may asawa) at sa lalaki (no knowledge na may asawa na pala yung babae).

Nabuntis yung babae at pinapaako sa lalake (na hindi nya asawa) yung responsibilidad. Since na-blackmail ni babae si lalaki, napipilitan magsuporta si lalaki sa babae. Yung asawa nung babae ay assumed na unaware pa at iniisip nya na anak nila ng asawa nya yung bata.

If magwithdraw ng financial support si lalaki dahil nalaman nya na hindi nya talaga anak ito, maaari ba syang habulin ng babae at kasuhan sya ng economic abuse under RA 9262?


These would be the following premise:

1. Hindi in-acknowledge nung lalaki yung bata. Meaning, hindi sya nakapirma sa BC nito. Bakit? Because in the first place, duda sya na sya yung talagang tatay (yung babae nagtatrabaho sa massage parlor).
2. Yung bata, nakapangalan sa asawa nung babae.
3. Yung lalaki, nag-background check and nalaman nya na yung pera na pinapadala nya ay sa Bank Account ng asawa nung babae napupunta.
4.  Yung bata (now at 8 months old), napansin nung lalaki na mas kamukha nung asawa nung babae kesa dun sa lalaki. Malayong-malayo ang hitsura kumbaga.

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marlo


Reclusion Perpetua

I would ignore the girl, it is not my problem.

I am not sure for the part of RA9262 of non-support as there was no basis of acknowledgment identifying the child as his own.

If she files a case against the 2nd man, the husband would probably know. DNA test in court might crumble her marriage and proving one thing only. Bottomline, she will lose more than gain more.

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
marlo wrote:
I would ignore the girl, it is not my problem.

I am not sure for the part of RA9262 of non-support as there was no basis of acknowledgment identifying the child as his own.

If she files a case against the 2nd man, the husband would probably know. DNA test in court might crumble her marriage and proving one thing only. Bottomline, she will lose more than gain more.
Thanks for sharing your insights sir.

Regarding sa pagsupport ng bata, pwede naman ihinto na yun since never naman inacknowledge nung lalaki ang bata nor may kahit anung pinirmahan na papeles para dito.

Probably ang magiging concern lang dito is yung safety nung lalaki since binalaan sya nung babae na ipapatunton sya ng ina nito (hindi pa naman alam yung exact address). Ano yung magiging legal steps ni lalaki to ensure his safety and his family?

And another concern is what if magdecide ang asawa nung babae na ipainpugn yung bata. Given na anak talaga ng mag-asawa yun, safe si lalaki. Kung hindi, possible grounds ito for adultery. AFAIK, may 1 year yung asawa nung babae to impugn the baby given na sa iisang bubong nakatira yung mag-asawa (baby is now 8 mos old) and nagsasama sa iisang bubong ang mag-asawa. Ano ang posibleng mangyari given na lumampas yung period to impugn the baby?

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marlo


Reclusion Perpetua

May blotter para dyan. Huwag ikatakot. I doubt na isasambulat ng babae sa buong bayan na iba ang ama ng bata dahil malamang ikasira ng marriage niya ito o ng tiwala ng husband niya sa kanya. Kukuha sya ng bato na ipukpok lang sa ulo niya.

Depende sa adultery kung nais ito ng husband at kung mapatunayan niyang hindi niya anak ang bata thru DNA tests. O kung magiging kaibigan niya ang 2nd man para tumestigo para sa kanya.. Apektado rin ang legitimes kung sakali.Case to case sa sitwasyon. Mahirap himay himayin na yan dito.

Be wise. Kung kailangan aminin niyang kanya ang bata o ipa test sa DNA, ay ipursige ito sa tamang panahon. Hindi natin nalalaman ang kinabukasan.

OT na to. May isang storya dyan, baby na ayaw i-acknowledged ng ama... after 30 years, naging sobrang yaman at kilalang tao ang bata. At ang tunay na ama na hindi inangkin ang bata ay gumapang sa kahirapan at puros sakit ang dinanas... kung kailan sya namulat eh hindi na siya pinaniwalaan pa. Inani ang kanyang tinanim.

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MisterD


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marlo wrote:
May blotter para dyan. Huwag ikatakot. I doubt na isasambulat ng babae sa buong bayan na iba ang ama ng bata dahil malamang ikasira ng marriage niya ito o ng tiwala ng husband niya sa kanya. Kukuha sya ng bato na ipukpok lang sa ulo niya.

Depende sa adultery kung nais ito ng husband at kung mapatunayan niyang hindi niya anak ang bata thru DNA tests. O kung magiging kaibigan niya ang 2nd man para tumestigo para sa kanya.. Apektado rin ang legitimes kung sakali. Case to case sa sitwasyon. Mahirap himay himayin na yan dito.

Be wise. Kung kailangan aminin niyang kanya ang bata o ipa test sa DNA, ay ipursige ito sa tamang panahon. Hindi natin nalalaman ang kinabukasan.

OT na to. May isang storya dyan, baby na ayaw i-acknowledged ng ama... after 30 years, naging sobrang yaman at kilalang tao ang bata. At ang tunay na ama na hindi inangkin ang bata ay gumapang sa kahirapan at puros sakit ang dinanas... kung kailan sya namulat eh hindi na siya pinaniwalaan pa. Inani ang kanyang tinanim.
Thank you for answering again Sir.

Given na pinaniwala ni Babae na si Lalaki na siya ang ama pero sa totoo, ang kanyang asawa talaga ang tunay na ama nito. Maari bang magsampa ng reklamo/kaso si Lalaki doon sa Babae?

About dun sa OT, I don't think maghahabol yung lalaki sa bata whether sya nga ang tunay na ama nito o hindi. Kung magiging kilala at mayaman yung bata, it could be because it was meant to be and same doon sa lalaki.

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marlo


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Kung may basehan at kayang patunayan nita sa korte, bakit hindi? Sumangguni sa abogado. GL

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
marlo wrote:Kung may basehan at kayang patunayan nita sa korte, bakit hindi? Sumangguni sa abogado. GL
Thanks again sir.

I'll ask my friend to collect all the deposit slips he made and ask the other party the receipts as well.

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MisterD


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MisterD wrote:Thank you for answering again Sir.

Given na pinaniwala ni Babae na si Lalaki na siya ang ama pero sa totoo, ang kanyang asawa talaga ang tunay na ama nito. Maari bang magsampa ng reklamo/kaso si Lalaki doon sa Babae?
Just to add pala, can Text Conversations (screenshots kasama yung # nung babae) plus yung mga facebook posts nya (those posts were set to public which means anyone can view them) that shows na hindi naman siya hiwalay sa asawa nya and the fact that she lives together with her in-laws be included as evidence against doon sa babae?

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
Up.

Hopefully, others would be able to give their insights on this.

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Steh


Arresto Menor
Nakakaloka ang story but then my insights on this;

the woman has the burden to prove who is the father of her baby. If by document, ang naka indicate is the legal spouse as the father, legality wise - its her husband's baby.

now, kung nag ask ng financial support dun sa other man which she claim is the biological father, without proof of DNA, and behind the back of her husband- then its extortion - shame on this woman..

dun naman sa other man allegedly the biological father, if you really believe that the baby is yours 100%, then its your conscience that dictates to support the child, but sana alam ng husband na hindi kanya ung baby. respeto naman sa taong dinumihan nyo sa ulo.. shame on you too the other man, for making pakialam with a married woman who STILL cohabitate with her husband, buti sana kung hiwalay na yan.

kung magka gulo gulo na silang mag asawa at pati si other man after the truth is revealed - then that's the risk you have to face accept for this making this mess

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
Steh wrote:Nakakaloka ang story but then my insights on this;

the woman has the burden to prove who is the father of her baby. If by document, ang naka indicate is the legal spouse as the father, legality wise - its her husband's baby.

now, kung nag ask ng financial support dun sa other man which she claim is the biological father, without proof of DNA, and behind the back of her husband- then its extortion - shame on this woman..

dun naman sa other man allegedly the biological father, if you really believe that the baby is yours 100%, then its your conscience that dictates to support the child, but sana alam ng husband na hindi kanya ung baby. respeto naman sa taong dinumihan nyo sa ulo.. shame on you too the other man, for making pakialam with a married woman who STILL cohabitate with her husband, buti sana kung hiwalay na yan.

kung magka gulo gulo na silang mag asawa at pati si other man after the truth is revealed - then that's the risk you have to face accept for this making this mess
I feel you on this Madam Steh. (I've read your posts po).

I'm sure no sane husband would agree to father a child that is not his.

Also, shame on the woman who made to believe that the child is her husband's yet asks for support (money) from the other man who made him believe that she's not married.

As for the other man, be it a victim of circumstances or not, it up to him to prove his claim.

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igopkram


Arresto Menor
MisterD wrote:
MisterD wrote:Thank you for answering again Sir.

Given na pinaniwala ni Babae na si Lalaki na siya ang ama pero sa totoo, ang kanyang asawa talaga ang tunay na ama nito. Maari bang magsampa ng reklamo/kaso si Lalaki doon sa Babae?
Just to add pala, can Text Conversations (screenshots kasama yung # nung babae) plus yung mga facebook posts nya (those posts were set to public which means anyone can view them) that shows na hindi naman siya hiwalay sa asawa nya and the fact that she lives together with her in-laws be included as evidence against doon sa babae?
I'm interested in getting your thoughts here.

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
Up. Hopefully someone can give me insights about this.

Just to add pala, can Text Conversations (screenshots kasama yung # nung babae na lumabas after isearch yung # nito sa facebook) plus yung mga facebook posts nya (those posts were set to public which means anyone can view them) that shows na hindi naman siya hiwalay sa asawa nya and the fact that she lives together with her in-laws be included as evidence against doon sa babae?



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16 Child custody on Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:45 pm

SandySkye


Arresto Menor
I have a daughter shes 1yr old now. Her father file a demand for her custody. Nakakadalaw sya sa bahay nmin anytime he wants ng walang kadaladala minsan. Meron man, tira tira ng anak ng pinsan niya. Like diaper, napaglumaan na clothes, like that. Then one time gusto niyang hiramin ung bata and I refused kasi ayaw niya akong isama. Ano daw gagawin ko eh ung bata lang naman daw gusto niya makasama syempre for me I want to an assurance na babalik sakin ung anak ko. So hindi ko pinakita nagtago kami ng anak ko. Then pagdating niya para sana sunduin ung anak ko, wala na kami.. kinausap sya ng parents ko kung bakit ayaw niya akong isama, eh kasi daw gusto daw niya makasama for how many days ung bata. So my plano talaga syang kunin ung bata. Tapos un, next month pabalik balik na naman sya sa bahay para makita yung bata.. tapos ung ksama niyang pinsan niya nagwawala na magfifile nga daw sila ng demand at uubusin nila ung pera nila sabi sa parents ko. Then this January 2016, ung pangalawang punta nya sa bahay, nagkataon naman na my family problem kami so sabi namin balik na lng sya kasi my mga aayusin pa kami. So ayun nagsabi na naman sya na mgfifile na nga sya ng demand. Hanggang sa my duamating na nga, nag hearing ndin last June28, binigyan xa ng visiting rights every saturday8-5pm. My question is pwede po ba akong magfile ng petition na kung pwede once a month lang sya dumalaw? inobliga sya mgsustento ng 5k/mon pero kulang pdin un para sa bata.

Thank you for your interest. Looking forward hearing from you.

-Sandra

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attyLLL


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you should have raised your concerns during the hearing, but you can still file a motion to modify the order of support and visitation if you can justify to the judge that it is warranted.


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SandySkye


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I can raised my concerns in the court becauss the judge keep telling me not to talk. But if the father of my daughter will raise his concern the judge will listen. I just knew that the preciding judge was known by them.

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MisterD


Arresto Mayor
Up. Hopefully someone can give me insights about this.

Just to add pala, can Text Conversations (screenshots kasama yung # nung babae na lumabas after isearch yung # nito sa facebook) plus yung mga facebook posts nya (those posts were set to public which means anyone can view them) that shows na hindi naman siya hiwalay sa asawa nya and the fact that she lives together with her in-laws be included as evidence against doon sa babae?

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zyra m. plata


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Mister D,
That girl is insane or should I say mukhang pinaperahan ka ng mag-asawang yan! Ganito gawin mo, mukhang binablackmail ka nyan e di I-blackmail mo rin. Any woman having sex with man other that her husband can be sued of adultery (unlike ng mga lalake na kailangang ibinahay pa ang babae bago masampahan ng kaso..unfair noh?). Sabihin mo dun sa lukang babae na yun that you are to file adultery. Dapat nga lang may proof ka na nag-sex nga kau ni Inday.

Ha Mad ist!

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marlo


Reclusion Perpetua

Tthe bio-father has no mandatory financial obligation to the concerned child in subject as the legitimacy of the child by an unfaithful wife would be the concern of the court on this case imho. If there is, it would be at bio-father's discretion of goodwill only afaik.

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