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Falsification of documents HELP :(

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1 Falsification of documents HELP :( on Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:44 pm

Onepiece2017


Arresto Menor
Sir /maam. I have issues on this company nagkaroon kami (many emplyoees) ng false claim in our liquidation and some falsification of documents e.g. receipt ganun. We admit it naman tru the following: 1. Admit it to our HR, immediate supervisor and managers. 2. They (accounting) request to revalidate our claims within 48hrs which we have done naman by providing them all documentz with correction (we signed it) as request by them 3. They issue a show cause amd hearing , we admint namn from that show cause it was recorded and they ask why how and when. Nagawa lang namn namin un dhil 250 lang OT pay nila for 4 hrs after 8hrs working and after 4hrs TY nlng. Eto naging process ng case namin, after admintting

1. Nirevalidate namin and we provide them the documents that we know might use against us
2. Hr provide a show cause and letter to have a hearing
3. Hearing they ask how , why, when from to, if there are more etc,
4. Hr ask me to sign the documents that stated, all my backpay will not be paid by this company, a promisory note that i will pay the whole amount in 1 month and will not pay my last month in the company.

Ang mga naging falsification namin is nagdagdag kami ng amount sa resibo like from 250 naging 300 ganun. Or from commute nag file kami ng taxi. Ang d namin matanggap is ung sunction na we felt they took advantage. They wanted us to pay the whole amount like 250 ung naging expenses ginawa namin 300. Bale 50 lang dapat babayran namin since totoo namn ung 250 but they wanted to oy us the 300. Then they suspend us 30days after that need pa bayaran ung total amount meaning from day 1 to last day. Parang sobra naman.

Lastly, ung naging due process namin, nag admit namn kami, guilty kumbaga. They said my reconsideration daw un. Pero by the book parin ginawa nila tapos ung show cause pa namin is nakalagy if proven gulity,then fail to attend hearing admitted guilty.. hindi ba pag guilty na diretsyo sunction na. Pinatagl pa kasi nila ng mahigit 1 month and mental torture na ginagawa smin like my hearing, issue ng show cause, mag admit daw (nakaadmit na kami 3 beses kung kanino kanino kulang nalng irecord namin) then un nga matgal na pag release ng sunction. Ayaw pa kami pag resignin sincr my case kami tapos tintakot pa kami ng kakasuhan oag umalis

Pleae help po, we know namn ung nagawa namin pero ang d namin matanggap is ung nagi g process at grabeng sunction. Ang pinaka malaking amount na nakuha ng isang tao is 100k ang pinaka maliit is 500 pesos lng ung average is 5k to 7k, thanks po

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2 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 5:59 am

HrDude


Reclusion Perpetua
Anong tanong mo? Nagtatanong ka ba dito kung paano mo malulusutan ang pagnanakaw na ginawa mo? Hindi mo makukuha dito yun.

Mental torture sa iyo? E dapat ngang sampahan ka ng kaso dahil pagnanakaw yung ginawa niyo. Harapan niyo na lang ang hatol sa inyo.

Kahit mag-resign kayo o hindi, akala niyo ba hindi kayo makakasuhan? Dapat nga na makasuhan kayo at matanggal sa kumpanya niyo. Piso o 1 million pa ang kinuha mo, parehas lang yun na pagnanakaw.

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3 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:18 am

Onepiece2017


Arresto Menor
Haharapin namin po namin. Ang question ko lang po is ung naging process. Nag admit namn po kami, ang concern lang po namin is tama po ba ung naging process ng case namin? Tha k u po

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4 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:58 am

lukekyle


Reclusion Perpetua
the process itself seems correct based on what you have told us. baka the amounts nalang pwendng pakiusapan na ibaba. try to make a counter proposal, wag naman sana buong amount kasi siguradong may costs naman yun

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5 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:13 am

Onepiece2017


Arresto Menor
Un nga po eh ung concern namin. Kumabga po 250 ung official expenses. Tas file namin sa liquidation is 300. Imbis na 50 lang ung babayaran namin gusto nila buo. 300.. kaya po kami lumapit dito para itanung kung tama po un?.. expect kasi namin ung 50 na difference lang babayran namin. Then gusto po nila in 1 month lang dapat bayaran na ung accumulated amount. After dismissal.

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6 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:25 am

lukekyle


Reclusion Perpetua
yeah you have to understand, nagnakaw kayo. The other party is looking to charge penalties as well. This is what they want, try mo makiusap kasi pwede nila kayo ipakulong because of this. You can probably contest the amount in court but then malamang magfile sila ng criminal charges against you

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7 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:09 pm

river03


Arresto Mayor
Gusto ko po sanang itanong, paano po pag si employee ay nag file ng complaint sa NLRC for illegal dismissal, pwede rin po bang magfile din ng criminial case si employer at the same time. May mga ganitong situation ba na nangyayari?

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8 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:19 pm

lukekyle


Reclusion Perpetua
yes. thats usually the case. typical scenario c employer hindi muna nag file kasi hassle or maliit lang ang amount. C empleyado mag file ng illegal dismissal. C employer gaganti at mag file ng qualified theft. Nakakulong si employee habang dinidinig both cases.

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9 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:56 pm

river03


Arresto Mayor
hay...nakakalungkot naman.

thanks po ulit.

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10 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:35 am

HrDude


Reclusion Perpetua
river03 wrote:Gusto ko po sanang itanong, paano po pag si employee ay nag file ng complaint sa NLRC for illegal dismissal, pwede rin po bang magfile din ng criminial case si employer at the same time. May mga ganitong situation ba na nangyayari?

Pwedeng mangyari lahat ng ito. Magsamapa ng kaso ay isang karapatan ng empleyado o employer. Ang tanong e may basehan ba o 'cause of action' ang mga demanda nila kasi kung wala e idi-dismiss lang ito ng korte.

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11 Re: Falsification of documents HELP :( on Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:59 am

river03


Arresto Mayor
thanks sir hrdude.

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