Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale
1 Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:14 pm
2 Re: Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:10 pm
Both sides seem to have bad order of the documents I guess you don't find any reciepts because the property tax isn't paid in long time. Or do any of the still alive relatives remember any such pay?
It's remarcable the Municipal Treasurer's Office can't find it when you tell them the number ! Perhaps this can be lucky for you concerning unpaid property tax.
Tax need to be paid to get a SELL aproved,
but it seem the Municipaly don't notice/bother if you USE it, without paying property tax. Or perhaps the Municipaly change their mind to demand property tax now when you have told them.
How eager is your uncle to sell?
Can it be an alternative YOUR side of the family buy it?
Otherwice it will be complicated to "solve". Ask the Municipaly what idea they have to solve the PART of the mess depending of they don't find the number.
IF you want to transform the land to Titled:
"My late grandma bought the land in 1975 but failed to convert the deed of sale to a title. "
I suppouse that mean it HADN'T any title, when she bought it.
Because of (=if) property tax isn't paid in long time, you PROBABLY wouldn't get aproval to get it changed from tax property to Titled, because a MINIMUM demand for that is property tax has been paid the last 10 years, then it can be APPLIED to get title, but not even then is it sure to it approved, although most of them get approval. (Owned since 1947 and tax paid sure get approval.) But it don't hurt to ask if it's enough with a document from the Municipaly the tax is paid 10 years.
IF so, include that when you talk with the Municipaly. Perhaps they agree to write a document saying the tax is paid for the last 10 years, if you pay the dept for the last 10 years.
Undepending of if you transform the property to Titled or not, it can be sold, but you need Extrajudical process concerning the INHERITANCE to make clear who is owner.
To split it to sell part of it, I suppouse you need a survey.
The buyer will want proof the property tax is paid too, if he isn't stupid or get it veeeery cheap.
3 Thank you on Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:16 am
4 Re: Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:23 am
Yes, but want someone in the family buy and afford to?cess_reign wrote:My uncle is 100% willing to sell his share.
If so you can make the "simple" solution and just make it internal without involve officials (if they don't react themselves by they are woken up now
5 Re: Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:39 am
6 Re: Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:37 am
Yes to make it compleete,cess_reign wrote:My sisters and I wanted to buy it and secure a title under our names, but we may have to spend huge amount for the process (unpaid taxes and legal fees). Sigh!
but IF the Municipaly don't do anything now after you asked them,
then you can go on as before, just make documents for the sale now and wait with the rest until you can afford it. But price it fair counting with the tax dept.
An alternative can be, if you agree with you uncle. the tax depts and transfer fees are paid now, and your uncle is paid with downpayment plus then pay after each harvest until all is paid.
Depending of where it is, but in most provinces is it very hard to find buyer for agri land.
7 Re: Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:17 am
8 Re: Unable to find land owner's name using deed of sale on Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:54 pm
I see.cess_reign wrote:I agree with you, Sir. We will try to fix this problem as soon as possible since the tax due is accumulating every year. My Uncle already borrowed some money from us, that is the primary reason why he is selling his share. He has no other means to pay us, and he wants to save some in the future. Of course we want everything legal as much as possible. Thank you for your help. :-)
Well. Perhaps the tax office will forget you again
I don't know if there is a time limit for depts in the Philippines. (In my home country it's 10 years, elder depts than that are ERASED - except if the dept is demanded/reminded later, then 10 years are counted from the last remind date.)
If you are lucky they start counting from now, because they had lost the number
If the tax office demand very much, you can try to get an agreement with someone at higher position with right to make deal, to get the total sum reduced because they had lost the number, so they can't see (if) your grandmother paid...
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