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SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP

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1 SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:18 pm

bogart the explorer


Arresto Menor
GOOD DAY PO..

Company "V" started po dito sa pinas last 2007 pa. I was lucky to be of service sa kanila last 2011 as a contractual employee. Then my contract ended last quarter ng 2011 din po. As per advice ng lead ko sa Company, they are in need of engineers by next year (2012). Then i waited by first quarter of 2012 i was hired as a regular employee.

Company "V" po pala e isang epc (engineering procurement and construction company) na may mother company sa Pasadena Texas.
As years go by na naging mahina ang oil and gas. Mother Company and Company "V" e nagbawas ng tao... sa US e alam ko po madali magtanggal since iba ang law nila.. dito sa Pinas last May 2016, was ang first batch ng redundancy, lahat ng nasama e nakakuha naman po ng severance pay and was given 30days para maging officially not connected with Company "V". Then by Dec 2016 nagkaroon po ng 2nd batch ng redundancy, ganun din po ang nangyari.. they were given severance pay and 30days.
And i thought i was lucky at di ako nakasama sa 2 batches of redundancy

After holyweek this April 2017.. nung April 21, 2017 e parang pangalawang biyernes santo ko. THe company told us by email na company "V" was for closure.. we even had a conference call sa CFO ng mother company at ang sabi nga e wala kami makukuha na severance pay.. ang tanging maibibigay lang e ang last pay, prorata 13th month pay, at SL/VL conversion.

With my 5 years with the company, at as per policy din nila e entitled naman po ako sa severance pay diba po?
considering iba sa opismates ko e mga pioneer pa.. since nagstart si company "V" e nandun pa sila..

DO i need to file a suit against company "V" sa NLRC?
kasi same day closure ang ginawa nila.. sa US at dito sa pinas.. diba po iba magkaiba ang law natin sa labor/employment?

E papaano po kung mag file nga, e kung sabi ni CFO wala talaga funds e di kahit manalo sa case e wala pa rin ako makukuha na severance pay?

PLEASE ADVISE ASAP at ang balita ko by MAY1 e close na daw ang US OFFICE.. if ever i file a case.. sino pa kayang hahabulin? can we get yung bond ni company "V" sa SEC ?

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2 Re: SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:00 pm

lukekyle


Reclusion Perpetua
iba kasi ang situation mo, sila terminated due to redundancy, ikaw due o closure. If closure due to losses then wala kang matatanggap, if closure for other reasons dapat may separation pay.

Unfortunate true yung sinabi ng CFO if wala na talagang funds/assets ang company then kahit manalo ka then wala kang makukuha. You can try to go after any asset that the company still owns.

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3 Re: SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:07 pm

bogart the explorer


Arresto Menor
so assets lang pala pwede paghatian? what about yung bond sa SEC? di ba pwede gamitin yun?

i'm still having second thoughts kasi of filing or not, kasi naging mabait naman si company "V" sa empleyado due sa pagbaba rin kasi ng oil & gas kaya kahit yung mga awarded na na project e pina cancell na lang.. haist....

matindi kasi naging loss ng home office sa projects in iraq.. kaya ganun.. tsk tsk tsk

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4 Re: SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:32 pm

lukekyle


Reclusion Perpetua
yung bond is considered an asset. find out first if yung closure is due to losses, kasi if so wala ka makukuha and sayang lang time and effort

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5 Re: SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:59 am

bogart the explorer


Arresto Menor
closure nga po due to losses, pero mas marami naman silang assets sa pasadena, compared dito sa pinas kaya i think uunahin muna gamitin assest sa us?

pero kasi ang naiisip ko baka kasi sinabi nga closure kasi nga iba ang law sa us.. kumbaga wala ng habol sa us client sa mother company kasi they filed for bankcruptcy.. dunno lang kung chapter 11 or chapter 7 (yun ang madalas sinasabi e).

so ang assets dito sa pinas e baka pwede paghatian namin mga binigla?

kasi ang habol ko dun e walang due process.. one day notice e terminated at evicted na kami sa office.. i think its considered illegal dismissal at per philippine labor law diba po?

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6 Re: SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:52 am

lukekyle


Reclusion Perpetua
pag closure due to business losses employees are not entitled to separation pay. hindi naman kelangan ng due process kasi wala naman paratang sayo. ang due process ay para bigyan ka ng pagkakataon na ipagtanggol ang sarili laban sa paratang laban sainyo. wala namang paratang sayo so bakit ka bibigyan ng due process.

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7 Re: SEVERANCE PAY... PLEASE ADVISE ASAP on Sat May 06, 2017 12:05 am

bogart the explorer


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what i meant that walang due process is kasi nga.. we were illegally dismissed.. same day notice ang pagkakatanggal sa amin..

di kami binigyan ng 30 days which is nasa batas diba po?

unless kung siguro .. nag file muna sa DOLE ng bankctrupty, kasi ang nangyari. kami munang employees ang inuna tinanggal..

some of my colleagues nga po e may mediation schedule na sa NLRC.. kasi what they were fighting for kasi nga e we were illegally dismissed.

ako kasi i'm still having second thoughts at naging mabait naman kasi si company "V". kumbaga e i believe in the saying "dont burn bridges".. e baka kasi pag umayos ulit at magbalik sa business si company "V" kasama ako sa magiging kasama

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