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1 Qualified theft on Tue May 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Lhui_Nhen


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Good day and GOD bless po Atty., may kaibigan po ako na kinasuhan ng "qualified theft" ng isang lending company n pinagttrabahuan nya bilang collector. Aminado nmn sya na hndi nya nre-remit ng tama ang pera, sa mdaling salita, kinukupitan nya ang kumpanya... Ang tanong po niya Atty, ano daw po ang die process sa gnung kaso at ano daw po ba ang dapat niyang gawin?

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2 Re: Qualified theft on Wed May 24, 2017 4:19 pm

Jadis

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Pumunta siya sa abogado. Tanungin niya kung pwede pa bang makiareglo.

Mas mabigat ang qualified theft kesa sa simple theft.

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3 Re: Qualified theft on Thu May 25, 2017 3:05 pm

Lhui_Nhen


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Ano po ba ang kaparusahan kapag napatunayan na ang isang tao ay guilty sa QUALIFIED THEFT? At bago po ba matawag na "Qualified Theft" ano po ang basehan?

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4 Re: Qualified theft on Thu May 25, 2017 3:34 pm

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Theft is qualified when:

(1) the theft is committed by a domestic servant; (2) the theft is committed with grave abuse of confidence; (3) the property stolen is either a motor vehicle, mail matter or large cattle; (4) the property stolen consists of coconuts taken from the premises of a plantation; (5) the property stolen is fish taken from a fishpond or fishery; and (6) the property was taken on the occasion of fire, earthquake, typhoon, volcanic eruption, or any other calamity, vehicular accident or civil disturbance.

Kung ikaw ay isang empleyado at kumuha ka ng bagay na hindi naman sa iyo, na walang pahintulot ng may-ari na ginamit mo ang posisyon mo bilang empleyado ng kompanya, yan ay QUALIFIED THEFT. I-Google mo ang Art. 310 ng Revised Penal Code. Yan ang basehan.

The penalty is based on the value of the thing stolen. Mas mahal, mas mabigat.

Kaibigan mo ba talaga, o ikaw?



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5 Re: Qualified theft on Thu May 25, 2017 9:53 pm

Lhui_Nhen


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Hehehe! Kaibigan ko po talaga.. Nakka recieved daw po sya ng demand letter pero hndi p nmn daw nka file ang kaso

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6 Re: Qualified theft on Thu May 25, 2017 10:06 pm

Jadis

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There is no reason to wait until a case is filed. Your friend should answer the charges.

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7 Re: Qualified theft on Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:32 am

roxannechan


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Hi ask ko po, how long it will take if we file a Holding departure? Accounting office po kami. Recently we found out na yung mga kasama namin hindi nila nireremit mga binabayaran. Now, nung konti konti po namin nalalaman isa isa lang umaalis na. Yung isa nakalabas ng bansa,she's now in taiwan. The 2nd 1 andito pa naman po sa pinas, yung pangtatlo she's planning to go abroad din and nagaayos na po siya ng documents niya without any formal resignation letter sa office. Thank you

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8 Re: Qualified theft on Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:44 am

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You have to file criminal charges against them first. If the amount stolen falls within the jurisdiction of the Regional Trial Court you could ask the court to issue a hold departure order.

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9 Re: Qualified theft on Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:20 pm

enihs


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ask lang po.. nakareceived po frnd ko ng subpoena, due date po dis coming june 13... after po makapagpasa ng affidavit ung frnd ko... warrant na po ba kasunod? tnx po

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10 Re: Qualified theft on Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:22 pm

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Tatlo lang pwedeng mangyari:
1. Iaakyat sa korte ang kaso at maglalabas ng warrant;

2. Madidismiss ang kaso dahil kulang ang ebidensya laban sa kaibigan mo (o sa iyo?); o

3. Ipapatawag kayo ng piskal para sa karagdagang katanungan at pagkatapos nito, pwedeng 1 o 2 ang mangyari.

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11 Re: Qualified theft on Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:28 pm

jenneriche


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Ask ko lang po. May kakilala po akong nakasuhan ng 3 counts of qualified theft. Naconsolidate na daw po lahat kaya pinagbabail po kami ng 24000 x 3 daw po kasi 3 counts total of 72000, nakulong po sya nung thursday last week and binigyan po kami ng deadline ng hanggang tuesday kung ndi daw po makakapagpiyansa iaakyat na daw po sya sa bmjp. Ano po ang kailangan naming gawin? Ayaw na po namin syang maakyat sa bjmp.

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12 Re: Qualified theft on Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:36 am

Jadis

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Kailangan niyong bayaran yung piyansa niya.

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13 Re: Qualified theft on Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:58 am

loejay_84


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good day! po atty..meron po akong kasama po na pinadalahan nang sobpoena galing po sa prosecutors office na mag submit siya nang counter affidavit within 10 days upon reciept of the letter,natanggap po ang letter june 14 2017. 3pm wed.tanong ko po atty..kailan bah ang deadline po pwede po ba sa june 26 2017?

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14 Re: Qualified theft on Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:38 pm

loejay_84


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atty good day po..yong kasam ko atty. nag trabaho po siya sa isang private coop po bilang isang acting manager/bookeeper in 5 months lang po. ngayon po nag resign po siya sa trabaho pinermahan naman nang kanilang chairperson o na recieve po may perma po ang kanyang resignation letter. pag lipas nang limang buwan meron po silang pinadala lang demand letter po na galing sa kanilang hired attorney.tapos po nag reply po siya nang letter po na galing sa kanyang attorney.pagkalipas po nang limang buwan ulit po nagpadala nanaman sila nang letter galing sa NBI na alleged QUALIFEID THEFT. sa araw po na kanilang ibinigay po pumunta naman siya sa NBI with her manifestation letter..sabi nang atty nang NBI pwede kana umalis..at ang complainant po ay ipina iwan sa opisina.wala pong nang yaring settle or amicable sa room po that time.  pagkalipas po nang ilang araw po mga one week po may na recieve na po siyang galing sa prosecutors office na sobpoena na kailangan siya mag submit nang counter affidavit po within 10 days upon reciept of the letter. tanong ko po atty. pwede ba sila maka file nang kaso na qualifed theft na wala na siya sa trabaho higit kumulang one year na po..atty. at naka pag resignd na siya at tinanggap ito nang kanilang chairperson. maraming salamat po atty.



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15 Re: Qualified theft on Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:59 pm

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loejay_84 wrote:atty good day po..yong kasam ko atty. nag trabaho po siya sa isang private coop po bilang isang acting manager/bookeeper in 5 months lang po. ngayon po nag resign po siya sa trabaho pinermahan naman nang kanilang chairperson o na recieve po may perma po ang kanyang resignation letter. pag lipas nang limang buwan meron po silang pinadala lang demand letter po na galing sa kanilang hired attorney.tapos po nag reply po siya nang letter po na galing sa kanyang attorney.pagkalipas po nang limang buwan ulit po nagpadala nanaman sila nang letter galing sa NBI na alleged QUALIFEID THEFT. sa araw po na kanilang ibinigay po pumunta naman siya sa NBI with her manifestation letter..sabi nang atty nang NBI pwede kana umalis..at ang complainant po ay ipina iwan sa opisina.wala pong nang yaring settle or amicable sa room po that time.  pagkalipas po nang ilang araw po mga one week po may na recieve na po siyang galing sa prosecutors office na sobpoena na kailangan siya mag submit nang counter affidavit po within 10 days upon reciept of the letter. tanong ko po atty. pwede ba sila maka file nang kaso na qualifed theft na wala na siya sa trabaho higit kumulang one year na po..atty. at naka pag resignd na siya at tinanggap ito nang kanilang chairperson. maraming salamat po atty.

1. Walang kinalaman ang kawalan ng trabaho, pag-resign at pagtanggap ng resignation sa kasong pagnanakaw. Kung nalaman ng kumpanya na ninakawan sila ng "kasama" mo, at hindi pa lumipas ang takdang panahon na nakasaad sa batas upang maghabla, karapatan ng kumpanya na habulin ang kaibigan mo at panagutin siya, kung nagnakaw nga talaga siya.

2. Pumunta siya sa abogado at sagutin niya ang subpoena, kung magpipila ba siya ng kontra sinumpaang salaysay o hindi.

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16 Trespassing on Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:09 pm

Isab_el


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17 Re: Qualified theft on Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:39 pm

loejay_84


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Atty good day po salamat po sa sagot sa una ko pong pinadala..atty regarding po sa kaso nang kaibigan ko po attry. Na qualified theft..meron pong finding and result sa reconcilation po nang kinuha nang cooperativa na external book keeper na binayaran nang coop. Ang finding po doon ay wala pong nawala na pera kindi po wala pong klarong recording o proper accounting of accounts...kasi po daw may treasurer namn po na siya po ang tumatanggap nang pera na eniremit po nang aking kaibigan kasama po ang mga voucher reciept atsaka po cheke na pinalitan nang kanilang chairperson sa coop..at saka po ang book of records po sa mga cash remit at remitances ay ang nag hahawak po ay ang treasurer wala po siyang pinag hahawakan na recording book na dapat ay sa kanya ipina hawak..kasi siya po ang enapoint na book keeper.yung treasurer po ay nag papa liquidet at pinapagawan nang cheke na payee sa treasurer.ang kaibigan ko ay wala siyang karapatan na mag sign nang cheke kasi po ang signatory po sa banko ay ang mga ito treasurer,bod,chairperson lang po.atsaka po yung pinagawa na cheke nang treasurer pag na encash na po yun dapat po ba na ibalik sa kaibigan ko na book keeper para po na mag balance po sila sa treasurer.yun po ay wala po nabalik na cash.iwan nalang po daw kung saan na dila ang pera na ipina encash nang treasurera. Pwede po ba ito attorney sasabihin na pangyayari sa sa lawyer niya para po sa pina submit na counter affidavit. At npapayag po naman ang gumawa nang reconcilation na gwan siya nang affidavit po.

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18 Re: Qualified theft on Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:02 pm

Jadis

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If your "friend" already has a lawyer, it is not really prudent for you to still seek legal advice on behalf of your "friend" here.

The lawyer will know what to do. And why is this any business of yours, your "friend's" case?

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19 Re: Qualified theft on Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:19 pm

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Isab_el wrote:Good day,
I had cctv installed in my place after discovering some disturbing incidents happened in my place while I was away (no one is left in the house) like broken appliances, missing items and the mysterious appearance of my neighbor's wallet in my place (wallet's owner claims there was money in it but I found it without money except ids and coins). The wallet's owner  (my neighbor) accused me of stealing his money at first.  After installing cctv, I left my place for a week. Upon returning, lo and behold the 2 cctv cameras were broken. The cctv footage revealed that the suspect noticed the cctv cameras immediately upon entering my place and covered her face before exiting. The suspect came back a few hours later and destroyed the cameras. The suspect is the house helper of my neighbor (who owns the wallet). She initially denied ever entering my place and destroying the cameras, until the first brgy hearing. The suspect apologized for breaking in and for destroying cameras. However, she continues to deny ever destroying my appliances, stealing some small-value personal items and planting my neighbor's wallet inside. In other words she only admitted to acts caught in the camera. I didn't agree on settlement in the brgy and will file the case with the police.  Her excuse for entering was that she heard a noise inside my place and was curious and that my door was unlocked (both statements are untrue as seen in cctv footage). I do not believe her excuses and think she is lying to save face. I highly suspect she is also responsible for the crimes that happened in my place prior to having cctv installed.  I am wondering if this suspect has grounds for denying those acts committed before I had cctv installed? May lusot po ba sya sa kaso? What can be the minimum or maximum punishment for this? Thank you in advance.

Looks like attempted robbery with use of force upon things to me. The penalty depends on the amount of what could have been stolen, or what was already stolen previously, if the value of the things taken before are taken into account.

If the value of the property exceeds P250, the penalty is reclusion temporal (12 years and 1day to 20 years).

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