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1 Office premise on Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:46 pm

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
Hi would a parking lot be considered as an office premise?? We are currently leasing one floor on a building in eastwood... The parking lot is a payparking that anyone could access which is also open to mall goers since it's connected to the mall also. Our office doesn't have reserved slots in the said parking area so technically it's open to anyone. But our office has direct access to the parking area through a common elevator. Thanks

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2 Re: Office premise on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:27 am

Patok


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what is your question? the parking is not being rented by your office.

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3 Re: Office premise on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:57 am

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
Hi sir. Thanks for your response. Yep. The parking lot is not being rented by the office but technically the same building. Would that be considered as a part of an office premises?

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4 Re: Office premise on Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:20 pm

Patok


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No because you are not renting it.  It's a public pay parking.

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5 Re: Office premise on Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:56 pm

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
Thank you for the confirmation sir. It's just that I got suspended because of fighting in the parking lot with a co employee. I was suspended for the reason that it's an office premise. I was on restday and not on shift that day. Could I bring that up in the hearing that it's not an office premise and shouldn't be in the hearing in the first place?

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6 Re: Office premise on Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:16 pm

lukekyle


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ang problema mo is fighting is a criminal offense and as such falls within forbiden activities whether you are on duty or wherver you are.

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7 Re: Office premise on Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:13 pm

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
Thanks for your response sir. Which has to be filed in court to be proven right? Dpf that was issued to me was a different case. It's for fighting within office premises. I'm just referring to the steps for the hearing within our h.r.

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8 Re: Office premise on Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:12 am

lukekyle


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no. It has to be filed in court para ka makulong. Remember an admin case does not require the same burden of proof as a court case. You can argue semantics all you want the result will be the same.

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9 Re: Office premise on Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:35 am

HrDude


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"fighting' is NOT a crime or an offense but the consequences thereof may be considered as such.

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10 Re: Office premise on Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:12 am

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
That's exactly what I meant sir. The offense that I'm being charged of is.....
Acts against peace and order specifically under assaulting or inflicting bodily harm (Assaulting or fighting WITHIN Company premise resulting in any kind of injury or any violent behavior even if nor harm was actually inflicted to another or outside company premise while on OFFICIAL DUTY except in case of defense of one's self or another against unprovoked assault) That is the exact alleged violation that was charged that's why I was suspended. I was on Rest day that day and the HR supervisor is claiming that the parking area in the same building but a pay public parking is saying that it's still company premise.

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11 Re: Office premise on Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:44 am

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
That's exactly what I meant sir. The offense that I'm being charged of is.....
Acts against peace and order specifically under assaulting or inflicting bodily harm (Assaulting or fighting WITHIN Company premise resulting in any kind of injury or any violent behavior even if nor harm was actually inflicted to another or outside company premise while on OFFICIAL DUTY except in case of defense of one's self or another against unprovoked assault) That is the exact alleged violation that was charged that's why I was suspended. I was on Rest day that day and the HR supervisor is claiming that the parking area in the same building but a pay public parking is saying that it's still company premise.

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12 Re: Office premise on Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:23 am

mikos23


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You can file a dispute against the suspension with your HR.

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13 Re: Office premise on Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:23 am

Wutang001


Arresto Menor
That's the problem sir. My TL advised me that I'm due for termination today. I have received a text message from hr telling me to go to the office yesterday to sign the CAF. Im currently out of town attending to some personal matters. They have advised me that I only have up until today to sign it. Is that legal?

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