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ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void??

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1 ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Wed May 25, 2011 4:35 am

tip


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Good day po! Gusto ko po sanang itanong if pwede ko kayang ipa void or ipa annul yung kasal namin ng misis ko kasi sa konsehal lang kami kinasal bale 4 years and 3 months napo kaming kasal. Nag attend kami ng seminar before kasal namin at nag wait kami ng mga more than 10 days before kasal namin naka kuha kami ng license sa municipality. Then nag karoon kami ng celebration sa isang resort at doon ginanap ang kasal namin na supposetedly dapat mayor yung mag kakasal kaso si konsehal ang dumating at nag solemnize sa amin or nag kasal sa amin. kasi daw busy si mayor at nag proxy nalang si konsehal. pumirma kami parehas ng misis ko sa marriage contract pero yung konsehal na nag kasal hindi pumirma at sinabi nalang na dapat naming isubmit sa local civil registrar sa municipality para ma ifile. bale nung balikan namin yung kopya ng marriage contract namin sa local civil munipality after one week eh nakita ko may pirma na si mayor. pwede pa ba akong mag file nang annulment or to void our marriage ?? Until now wala kaming naging anak ng misis ko at palagi ko syang pinapadalahan ng allowance nya kasi nasa abroad ako at nasa pilipinas sya. kaso away bati kami ng away bati nakakapagod na kaya gusto ko naring humiwalay sa kanya dahil sa wala naman akong napapala simula nung nagpakasal kami lalo na priority nya ay yung side ng family nya hindi ako na husband nya. di rin sya masyado nagpupunta sa family side ko kya yung family ko or side ko eh nag sasabi sa akin kaya nawawala yung trust ko sa misis ko. Nahahalata ko kasi na nagpakasal lang sya sa akin upang me mag sustento sa kanya at sa sister nya at father nya na pareparehong walang trabaho.

Isa pa may ipon ako pera sa bangko inopen ko ito after na makasal kami pero nasa pangalan ko lang pag halimbawa na ma void yung kasal namin conjugal property pa ba ito ?? dapat pa ba na ibigay ko kalahati ng naipon ko sa bangko??
Please advise if pwede pa ba ma void or annul marriage namin
Thanks po sa mag advice..

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2 kinasal ng konsehal on Wed May 25, 2011 5:14 am

reiz


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mgkano ba pinapadala mo sa knya monthly? at nsaang bnsa ka po ba?

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3 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Wed May 25, 2011 5:23 am

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[quote="reiz"]mgkano ba pinapadala mo sa knya monthly? at nsaang bnsa ka po ba?[/quote

Work po ako dito sa Dubai at nagpadala ako sa kanya 20K lang to 25 K lang per month po..

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4 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Wed May 25, 2011 5:32 am

reiz


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haaay buti kpa,,yung bwisit kong asawa nsa cnada 4yrs na,,kung mgpadala e 10k lng a month,,wla din kmi anak,,alm ko permanent na xa dun kso until now ndi prin ako pinipitisyon,,cge slamat,,kya irreklamo ko na xa,,

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5 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Wed May 25, 2011 1:08 pm

attyLLL


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i would say the marriage by a councilor is void, but how to prove that it was he not the mayor who presided is very difficult.


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6 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Thu May 26, 2011 2:13 am

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[quote="attyLLL"]i would say the marriage by a councilor is void, but how to prove that it was he not the mayor who presided is very difficult.[/quo


Plan ko nga po pag uwi ko this year mag file na ako ng petition for nullity of marriage namin dun sa province kung saan kami ikinasal kasi diba dapat before mag 5 years pwede pa ako mag file ng petition kasi pag lumampas ang 5 years hindi na pwede(if i'm not mistaken).

Pwede na siguro ang witnesses na magpatunay na hindi talaga yung mayor ang nag solemnized sa amin kundi si konsehal saka may mga pictures ako na nasa akin na magpapatunay non na habang kinakasal kami si konsehal ang nasa picture at hindi si mayor. Pwede kaya ito bilang ebidensya ko to prove na void talaga marriage namin.??

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7 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Thu May 26, 2011 6:27 pm

attyLLL


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another problem you will face is that you will have to prove that both of you believed that the councilor was not authorized to solemnize the marriage.


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8 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri May 27, 2011 9:45 pm

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ako kaya ko i-prove na di ako convinced na legal ngayon kasi nung time ng kasal namin expected ko talaga eh mayor hindi si konsehal ang dadating. pano pag sinabi misis ko na believe sya na authorized mag kasal si konsehal, it means hindi ma void marriage namin. at kung ganon ano kya dapat kong gawin. mag file din kaya ako ng psychological incapacity kaso magastos. please advice naman po.
thanks.

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9 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sat May 28, 2011 5:56 pm

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10 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:25 pm

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atty. paaano po pag sinabi nya na naniniwala sya na authorized magkasal ang konsehal matatalo po ba ang magiging kaso ko halimbawa. wala naman po kaming anak eh kahit mag hiwalay kami wala maaapektuhan masyado. saka priority nya po ay ang family (parent nya, sis nya at pamangkin nya) hindi kung ano yung dapat na ma establish naming dalawa, saka nawala na tiwala ko sa kanya kasi nakita ko sa facebook me naka akbay na lalake sa kanya. bihira lang po sya mag visit sa house nang side ko or magulang ko kasi dun pa rin ako naka tira. help pa kasi sya sa pamilya nya eh 5 years na kami halos palaging ganon ang reason nya. nag start pa naman ako bumili ng house and lot para sa amin eh nakapangalan sa akin yon me karapatan ba sya dun bale buy ko yun after marriage namin pero naka pangalan lang sa akin yon. pwede ko ba ibenta yun? please advice po.

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11 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:28 am

trexander


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Up for this!

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12 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:02 pm

attyLLL


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if she says she believed that he had authority, then the annulment cannot be granted on that ground.

that property is conjugal property. you can sell it, but she will have the right to invalidate the sale.


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13 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:19 am

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atty. pwede po kaya i convince ko nalang sya na sya na lang ang mag file ng kaso para sure ko na ma annul yung kasal namin sa ngayon wala kasi syang work kya pwede ata sya mag file sa PAO nag walang bayad para maka tipid then pag na annul na yung kaso kahit bigyan ko nalang sya yung pinaka babayad ko sana sa atty. kung ako ang nag file at least nakinabang pa sya. pwede po ba yun. kapag po ba na annul ang kasal may right pa rin pa po ba ang misis ko na mahati yung property na naka pangalan sa akin yung house and lot pero dba tapos bayad ko hinuhulugan ko palang sa pag ibig saka mag right ba sya dun sa bank account savings ko na nakapangalan sa akin. thanks po sa advice nyo.



attyLLL wrote:if she says she believed that he had authority, then the annulment cannot be granted on that ground.

that property is conjugal property. you can sell it, but she will have the right to invalidate the sale.

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14 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:10 am

ericson_nery


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I think you have a solid factual basis for an action for nullity of marriage on the ground of absence of authority of the solemnizing officer. The absence of any of the essential or formal requisites shall render the marriage void ab initio.

Find a lawyer who would stand ground for your cause.

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15 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:38 pm

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i'll be surprised if PAO will accept the case, but you can certainly try.


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16 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:59 am

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salamat po attorney at ericson sa sinabi nyo.

syanga po pala bale yung house and lot na hinuhulugan ko sa pag-ibig fund eh pwede ko po ba ibenta sa mother ko para makaiwas ako sa conjugal property para ma itransfer yung rights s mother ko then sya nalang mag complete nung payment then i pamana na nya sa akin yung house and lot pra mawala yung karapatan ng wife ko. please advise po thanks.

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17 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:16 pm

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that's valid if the mother will truly pay for the property and the funds are considered conjugal.


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18 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:28 pm

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I have the same issue in which the solemnizing officer was not the Mayor but the husband of our governor. That time, we really did not know that he was not the Mayor because I don't know the face of our Mayor. But after a week when we got the marriage contract, the one who signed in the it was the Municipal mayor. I don't think I have pictures to prove it but it was a mass wedding so i think I have many witnesses on that day. is it enough for grounds of nullity of marriage? I also want to be annulled because of some abuse (sexual, verbal emotional) I got from him. How can marital rape be proven?

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19 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:10 am

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attyLLL wrote:that's valid if the mother will truly pay for the property and the funds are considered conjugal.

Bale po mother ko bibili ng house and lot ko pero yung budget po galing sa akin deposit ko muna sa bank account nya then mag issue nalang po sya ng payment sa akin by check pra lumalabas na pera nya po talaga yung bayad sa akin. Ano po ibig sabihin nyo sa "funds are considered conjugal'? bale father ko po eh sumakabilang buhay na.

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20 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:02 pm

attyLLL


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pink, you'll have to prove that both of your did not believe that the solemnizing officer did not have authority at the time of the wedding. rape is proven by the testimony of the woman plus other evidence that she had sexual intercourse with force threats or intimidation.

tip, the money to be paid to you by your mother will be considered your and your wife's conjugal property.


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21 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:16 pm

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dear atty.,

bale sa case ko po ba dapat ako mag file nang annulment of marriage or petition to nullify our marriage? alin po ba ang mag appropriate. halimbawa po na manalo ang case ko eh wala na po bang karapatan ang misis ko sa mga properties ko na nabili ko nung ikasal kami pati pera ko sa bangko?

malaki po ba ang pag asa na manalo ang kaso ko kung ang i-file ko eh kasal lang kami sa konsehal, worried kasi ako na baka sabihin ng misis ko sa korte na naniniwala sya sa authority ng konsehal.

pwede po ba ako mag file din ng abandonment kahit na ako ang umiiwas sa knaya for at least one year..

thanks po sa response.

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22 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:54 pm

attyLLL


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i was at a city hall last week, and I was shocked to see a city councilor conducting a mass wedding. I asked around if the mayor was around and he was. am i missing something?


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23 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:13 am

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atty, kasi nung time na ikakasal nako narinig ko lang na nag issue ng authorization letter yung mayor sa konsehal pra i proxy sya. pede po ba yun? valid ba kapag may authorization letter na na issue na konsehal nalang mag daos ng kasal in behalf of the mayor.

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24 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:41 pm

pokwang


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@Tip huwag mo na lng sustentuhan tutal sinasabi mo naman na puro lng side nya nakikinabang at nde ka pinapiniwalaan so siguro fair naman yun sa knya kung hihinto mo sustento mo, at un pagsustento mo pambayad mo na lng sa lawyer na kukunin mo...sa tagal ng paglilitis ng kaso at sa mahal ng bayad sa lawyer...antayin na lng natin maapprove ang Divorce bill sa pinas...sana maaprove to.... sana maging fair sa mga kumukontra sa divorce bill.

Good luck sa atin mga hindi pinalad makakuha ng karapat dapat na makasama sa buhay!

(i have the same prob)

wasting time...kung maghahabol man sya property so be it...may taguan naman yan at lahat ng bagay napapag usapan kung alam naman nya wala syang share sa napundar mo ang lakas naman ng loob nya mag insist...oo nga may karapatan kasi ang basis e kasal...pero gagastos din sya ng malaking pera para sa kaso against sayo...uubutin ng sobra tagal bago madinig ang kaso, in the end magusap na lng ..mag matigasan na lng...not unless gusto mo mag asawa ng iba.... that's another story..

good luck sayo..

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25 Re: ikinasal ng konsehal valid ba or void?? on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:24 pm

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i would not agree that this authorization letter is valid


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